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Dalal · Post by **Dalal** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:43 pm

I want to recreate this sound but after trying for hours and failing I've decided to come here for help. Anyone have any ideas?

http://parthdalal.com/yoshiJump.wav

Dalal · Post by **Dalal** » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:59 am

*BUMP*. I gave up earlier but I want to try again. Anyone know how to do this? I'm sure someone on here is good enough

julioelgenio · Post by **julioelgenio** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:47 am

Guessing from that I think it's a Saw wave with a low pass filter, the real trick comes in with the Filter Envelope with the Decay setting and a higher resonance to kinda give it that sweeping bounce

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:46 pm

I'd guess a pitch EG is also involved.

Dalal · Post by **Dalal** » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:42 pm

Happy to hear these responses guys!

julioelgenio wrote:Guessing from that I think it's a Saw wave with a low pass filter, the real trick comes in with the Filter Envelope with the Decay setting and a higher resonance to kinda give it that sweeping bounce

I didn't think to mess with the resonance much. I will give that a try!

Chris-S wrote:I'd guess a pitch EG is also involved.

Could you elaborate on what a pitch EG is in this context? I'm not sure I'm familiar with the term. Do you mean that the pitch rises very quickly initially or falls quickly?

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Tue Aug 26, 2014 7:32 am

Exactly.

Dalal · Post by **Dalal** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:53 pm

Okay guys, tried for hours more. Still can't figure it out. Anyone wanna try the challenge?

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:58 pm

It sounds like a Jaw Harp/Jew's Harp to me (no idea why I'm capitalizing it, but...). This produces it's notes by means of a very strong formant. It's base pitch never changes, but the formant is so strong that we hear the notes it picks out over the "drone" under it.

In synthesis terms, try messing around with a sync sweep saw with a quick pitch sweep from high up, down to the base note on osc 2, osc 2 sync slaved to osc 1, then experiment with ring modulation and a bandpass filter to really bring out that midrange formant. As the instrument is plucked, you want a simple ramp envelope: |\ for both the pitch (of osc 2 - controlling the formant as it's synced) and volume (and possibly filter too).

Failing that, I'm sure there are jew's harp samples out there, you'd only need to cut a smal snippet from one where the formant is falling, then give it a |\ volume envelope.

MOK19 · Post by **MOK19** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:56 am

I think what we're primarily hearing is two filters moving together, at different cutoffs. Bandpass, I think. Or one filter that has the ability to spread two or more poles. Kinda like an upside-down rainbow, or a suspension bridge, with the envelope pulling it down. The envelope might also be modulating the resonance a bit, but I don't think that part's as important.

MOK19 · Post by **MOK19** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:05 am

Decided to give it a whirl, and my impression shifted a bit. Two saws, on different octaves, for a start. They could run through two serial filters, one Highpass, the other lowpass, different cutoffs of course, significant resonance.

All that partly accounts for the majority of the sound, but I'd guess that it's also layered with some other samples or patches for the attack portion, the poppyness at it's start. And if not, then that's gonna be some pretty tricky envelope work.

Dalal · Post by **Dalal** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:23 pm

Wow, thanks for the insights everyone!

I previously had the dogmatic assumption that this sound was purely synthesized, but after hearing the Jaw Harp (thank you Sendy!), I'm confident that I can create my own version of the sound using the right samples. This approach is likely to be better than trying to synthesize it from scratch, because as you pointed out MOK19, the attack portion is especially hard to get through synthesis alone.

I think this question is finally answered! The Jaw Harp (no idea why I capitalized it either) gives me an endless set of possibilities for the "bounce" noise I desire. I'll create my sound from that. Thanks to everyone who responded.

How to make this "bounce" sound?