NI Monark filter in other Reaktor ensembles, an approach (improved results and new demos added )

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Ingonator wrote:
Now i created an ensemble that uses the orignal Supersaw macro (from Alex Shore's JP-4c) and the Ladder x3 filter from Reaktor (based on Core modules).

You could check the ensemble yourself:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... er%201.ens^
just tried this today and im getting the demo/activate license window (i dont have monark but this should be the 'monark free' version?)

Looks like someone else had this problem but updating worked, however not here :(

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gamecat666 wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
Now i created an ensemble that uses the orignal Supersaw macro (from Alex Shore's JP-4c) and the Ladder x3 filter from Reaktor (based on Core modules).

You could check the ensemble yourself:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... er%201.ens^
just tried this today and im getting the demo/activate license window (i dont have monark but this should be the 'monark free' version?)

Looks like someone else had this problem but updating worked, however not here :(
Have to correct this one again but two later ensembles should work.

This for example:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... 20MkII.ens

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... el%20D.ens


Ingo
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those 2 work fine :)
nice job, cheers!

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thanx for your great effort on this Ingo! awesome stuff. :)
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thanks for this , one question , is it possible to use monark oscs into a other ensemble? and do you think it could be possible to implement a phase retriger on the osc ?

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Fred_Abstract wrote:thanks for this , one question , is it possible to use monark oscs into a other ensemble? and do you think it could be possible to implement a phase retriger on the osc ?
Yes, using the oscillators should be possible but the Osc module is closed so not sure about the retrigger. Would have to check the inputs of the Osc module.


Ingo
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Ingo, so as I understand the Monark filters can be used in my own ensemble without any problems?

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Igro wrote:Ingo, so as I understand the Monark filters can be used in my own ensemble without any problems?
Using the filter in other ensembles works but there are a few "problems":

- Ensembles with the Monark filter could not be redistrubutet except if you removed the module and add an instructions how to add it again (like in my exampes)

- It does only seem to work properly when the oscillators are based on Core modules (it took some time time to find that this is the solution)


Ingo
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Is there a way to use ensembles/ modules in reaktor with ensembles etc created in Tassman? I have been listening to the tons of demos available for Tassman and it is now on the top of my wish list actually the whole modeling collection is at the top ahead of komplete. Their physical modeled strings are blowing my mind. The moog is my favorite synth as well so I am torn between these 2 bundle packages.

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yessongs wrote:Is there a way to use ensembles/ modules in reaktor with ensembles etc created in Tassman?
Not without a VSTHost where you can chain VSTI and FX as separate inserts.
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yessongs wrote:Is there a way to use ensembles/ modules in reaktor with ensembles etc created in Tassman?
No. A Reaktor (or Tassman) ensemble or module is basically a list of instructions on how to initialise and configure the connections between blocks of pre-written code that exist within Reaktor (or Tassman). It doesnt do anything on its own, and it contains nothing which actually does any audio work independent of Reaktor (or Tassman). There's nothing in that list that Tassman (or Reaktor) would understand, let alone be able to utilise.

edit : In respect of the context electro has mentioned you can pass audio out of Reaktor, into Tassman, then back into another instance of Reaktor, within a host, where the ensembles run within their respective applications. But as per my first paragraph, the ensembles alone are not usable 'separately' outside anything other than that application they were built in.
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yessongs wrote:Is there a way to use ensembles/ modules in reaktor with ensembles etc created in Tassman?
Per whyterabbyt's answer above, the you can't, but what you might be able to do if you can create the pieces you want as units that you want to connect, you could try something like this:

http://www.vstforx.de

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Sorry to kinda/sorta hi-jack, but I'm a registered Monark owner and I've struggled trying to add velocity control to Monark. I thought the programming was just too tough for me to figure out, but this kinda gives me hope.

Can someone suggest how I can modify Monark to add velocity control to the filter and vca? I've done (small) mods to Reaktor ens. before... but never with anything this complicated.

TIA,

---JC

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thanks Ingo !
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