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Halma · Post by **Halma** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:44 am

lesha wrote:...All in all, I am very satisfied by Maxwell, it really is a gem that needs no polishing (except for the better looking GUI )

Thx for the graphs. And I recommend Maxwell as well. Absolutely transparent. Was a big fan of his small freebie already but this one is really nice. I like the pretty short lookahead (10ms) and the small footprint on the CPU (2%) on my old rig.

Cheers
Sebastian

shane1980 · Post by **shane1980** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:32 pm

If you do not want to destroy the imaging and sound field of the original mix, you should consider to try these
http://www.supremepiano.com/product/neodyna.html
This is an all purposed dynamic processor which features several limiter/Maximizer types

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:37 pm

shane1980 wrote:If you do not want to destroy the imaging and sound field of the original mix, you should consider to try these
http://www.supremepiano.com/product/neodyna.html
This is an all purposed dynamic processor which features several limiter/Maximizer types

The graph on your site is misleading, -125.3dB THD+N is a result of the bypassed Neo Dynamaster.
Please correct that.

Also, I couldn't use it at all as a brickwall limiter, so it does not belong to this topic.

AC222 · Post by **AC222** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:51 am

Hi lesha,

Thanks for taking the time to explain and post the graphs. I'll have to check this one later later.

Cheers,

AC

Eddie TX · Post by **Eddie TX** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:01 am

Those graphs are interesting. I suspected the AOM was coloring the signal a bit, since it seems to impart a kind of punch and heft to rock mixes that I couldn't match with other limiters. Maybe not the best choice for genres where transparency is of ultimate importance -- jazz, orchestral, etc. -- but if you're into the heavier stuff, I still think the AOM is tops.

Cheers,
Eddie

AC222 · Post by **AC222** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:47 am

Eddie TX wrote:Those graphs are interesting. I suspected the AOM was coloring the signal a bit, since it seems to impart a kind of punch and heft to rock mixes that I couldn't match with other limiters. Maybe not the best choice for genres where transparency is of ultimate importance -- jazz, orchestral, etc. -- but if you're into the heavier stuff, I still think the AOM is tops.

Cheers,
Eddie

Ha. Eddie, you are the best. Yeah, I can see AOM coloring a bit. But maybe whatever voodoo it's doing or harmonics it is creating helps keep the transients sharp on the snares even on the master bus? Tried installing Maxwell Smart. Doesn't seem to scan in Samplitude 11.5 pro so I can't even try it. Oh well. Pleased with AOM anyways!

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:19 am

AC222 wrote:Hi lesha,

Thanks for taking the time to explain and post the graphs. I'll have to check this one later later.

Cheers,

AC

You're welcome. I hope you will be able to check out Maxwell when it goes public, I will update this topic when that happens.

Eddie TX · Post by **Eddie TX** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:05 pm

Eddie TX wrote:Another new limiter, this one by HOFA, will be released at the end of this month, according to the website: http://hofa-plugins.de/pages/start_en/h ... ter-en.php. If the quality of their other plugins is anything to go by, this could be a real contender.

The HOFA limiter is out ... link is above. Free 14-day demo.

I've tried it on one song so far. Just a preliminary impression: I think I like it. REALLY like it!

Cheers,
Eddie

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:14 pm

Eddie TX wrote:The HOFA limiter is out ... link is above. Free 14-day demo.

I've tried it on one song so far. Just a preliminary impression: I think I like it. REALLY like it!

Cheers,
Eddie

I have tried it and didn't like it at all, it distorts like crazy, the only usable mode is Slow which isn't clean at all.

Distortion (MED mode) compared to Maxwell (red)

Harmonic distortion (MED mode) compared to Maxwell (red)

CPU usage is pretty terrible IMO:
Fast - 20.5 %
Med - 10.8 %
Slow - 24.6 %

If you want clean limiting, then HOFA IQ-Limiter is probably not for you.

Eddie TX · Post by **Eddie TX** » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:08 pm

After some more testing, I'm finding the HOFA limiter suits certain material pretty well -- it seems to impart a sense of clarity that helps out dark or muddy mixes. This may be due to its particular saturation characteristics. It's subtle, but comparing it with something like the AOM limiter makes the difference apparent.

However, the HOFA has not replaced the AOM as king of the rock mix in my book -- while the HOFA is pretty good, I haven't yet been able to get it to match the AOM for punch or beef (what's that, a buffet?). However, as noted previously, neither of these may be the best for quieter genres where transparency is paramount.

One thing the HOFA has going for it is ease of use -- the controls consist of one gain knob and a 3-position character switch. It does all the rest for you.

I didn't find CPU usage to be very high. About in line with comparable tools, and certainly less than the AOM in its oversampling modes.

Worth a demo, I'd say, just to see if it suits your material.

Cheers,
Eddie

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:02 am

I have been testing PSP Xenon and this thing is a beauty. From completely clean to dirty, it's CPU friendly, has autogain, transient control...

Currently $69 instead of $249, deal ends October 3, so hurry and get it.
It costs even less at JRR.
http://www.jrrshop.com/psp-xenon

I can't afford it right now, but if I could I think I would still prefer Maxwell.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:15 am

I really should look into this. But lately, I've been slacking on my "a/b" ing so I'll prolly miss out

radio12 · Post by **radio12** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:56 am

I agree with Lesha, a very good limiter, sounds great, easy to use, good price, i bought it after 10 min testing.

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:47 am

Tested Xenon little further, I must say that I prefer it to Maxwell regarding transient preservation.
This thing can take a beating!

But, nothing beats Pro-L in punchy mode when you want to preserve transients.

Lesha · Post by **Lesha** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:05 pm

If anyone has missed the opportunity, you still have a chance.

Which brickwall mastering limiter?