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hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:44 am

Might as well "jump"

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:59 pm

This old saw?

adam_firegate · Post by **adam_firegate** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:01 pm

I wrote an article about making Jump
http://music.tutsplus.com/tutorials/how ... -cms-21145

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:13 pm

arkmabat wrote:
izonin wrote:And this might be the answer to the secret of this particular sound's appeal. Running your analog synth through a tube amp and miking the cab is rather cool.
Considering he was foremost a guitar player, this could have been discovered by accident. "Let's plug this thing into my amp!"

Yep, let's plug Diva into a Marshall

First is the original from 1984, then Diva.

https://soundcloud.com/izonin/jumpdiva

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:33 pm

OP-X Pro II

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:36 pm

izonin wrote:Yep, let's plug Diva into a Marshall First is the original from 1984, then Diva.

https://soundcloud.com/izonin/jumpdiva

An honest 9.5/10 !
Share the patch / settings / full signal path.

rcat · Post by **rcat** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:49 pm

Here's how I'd do it: I'd go to my local Guitar Center where you can hear "Jump" and "Stairway to Heaven" being played non-stop at the same time every day, and just ask the kids who are playing it how they get the sound.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:01 pm

izonin wrote:
arkmabat wrote:
izonin wrote:And this might be the answer to the secret of this particular sound's appeal. Running your analog synth through a tube amp and miking the cab is rather cool.
Considering he was foremost a guitar player, this could have been discovered by accident. "Let's plug this thing into my amp!"
Yep, let's plug Diva into a Marshall First is the original from 1984, then Diva.

nope. the high register lacks the brassy sound of the original and the bottom end sounds
nothing like the original.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:17 pm

Mutant wrote:
izonin wrote:Yep, let's plug Diva into a Marshall First is the original from 1984, then Diva.

https://soundcloud.com/izonin/jumpdiva
An honest 9.5/10 !
Share the patch / settings / full signal path.

Hey, thanks!

The patch is a slightly modified Jump Brass. Then it gets tricky 'cause I went OTB and passed the signal through the preamp section of my Marshall combo. Reverb and delay were added to taste.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:28 pm

layzer wrote:
izonin wrote:
arkmabat wrote:
izonin wrote:And this might be the answer to the secret of this particular sound's appeal. Running your analog synth through a tube amp and miking the cab is rather cool.
Considering he was foremost a guitar player, this could have been discovered by accident. "Let's plug this thing into my amp!"
Yep, let's plug Diva into a Marshall First is the original from 1984, then Diva.
nope. the high register lacks the brassy sound of the original and the bottom end sounds
nothing like the original.

You are right, the low register sounds very different. And the brassiness of the filter... that's the aspect most difficult to emulate in software. However, I'm still pleased with how musical Diva sounds.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:11 pm

izonin wrote:
Mutant wrote:
izonin wrote:Yep, let's plug Diva into a Marshall First is the original from 1984, then Diva.

https://soundcloud.com/izonin/jumpdiva
An honest 9.5/10 !
Share the patch / settings / full signal path.
Hey, thanks!

The patch is a slightly modified Jump Brass. Then it gets tricky 'cause I went OTB and passed the signal through the preamp section of my Marshall combo. Reverb and delay were added to taste.

The real problem is that you just need tighter pants. Keep going tighter until the high registers sound perfect. For the low register, you have to chain smoke until you get it right.

Report back with your findings.

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:49 am

Sendy wrote:This old saw?

i see, said the old blind man...as he picked up the hammer and saw

rockstar_not · Post by **rockstar_not** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:07 am

Dang this thread got me again! I think I've done a "You've got to be kidding" click on the thread title at least 3 times over the past 10 years.

CableChannel · Post by **CableChannel** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:48 pm

This thread caught me, so I tried with MPowerSynth.
This is the result:

http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33470365/Demo13c.mp3

It's pretty hard to hit the exact sound of the original, everything needs to be right, the oscillator settings, the amount of detune, the type and amount of distortion, and the chorus settings. Anyway I think I came pretty close but with a little too much distortion in the upper range. Unfortunately I can't reduce it without significantly loosing distortion in the lower range.

Gribs · Post by **Gribs** » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:14 pm

My 16-year old and his friends discovered "Jump" and "Final Countdown" when they were about 11 or 12 years old. Us old farts who remember when the songs came out will groan when we hear them now, but there is a time for young kids when they sound fresh, especially in a house like mine where neither my wife nor I own the recordings would never bother to seek them out on the internet. My son plays piano and keys and has been taking traditional classical and jazz lessons for years, so there was a time when I had to hear the Jump and Final Countdown riffs frequently. I also had to hear Journey's "Don't stop believing" and, of all things, Guns and Roses "Sweet child of mine" guitar riff.

Happily, he grew out of these things. Now it is stuff like Scott Joplin, Gerschwin, etc.

How do I get Van Halen "Jump" sound?