KVR Audio

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:53 pm

bjporter wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:
z.prime wrote:with Swierk). Commercial software can usually not be used in OSC, so there is not that much left...
Actually I have about 50+ synths left! Sorry, we haven't run out

But please cross platform (win/osx) synths only ...

bjporter · Post by **bjporter** » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:18 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:
bjporter wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:
z.prime wrote:with Swierk). Commercial software can usually not be used in OSC, so there is not that much left...
Actually I have about 50+ synths left! Sorry, we haven't run out
But please cross platform (win/osx) synths only ...

We try

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:36 pm

Hey what about using Dexed (dx7 emulation) freeware synth next time maybe? Would be curious about deep programming fm synthesis sounds. It also seems to be able to import dx7 sysex patches.

Win: http://le-son666.com/software/dexed/dexed-0.7.0-win.zip
OSX (only vst): http://le-son666.com/software/dexed/dex ... sx.vst.zip
https://github.com/asb2m10/dexed

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:38 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:Hey what about using Dexed (dx7 emulation) freeware synth next time maybe? Would be curious about deep programming fm synthesis sounds. It also seems to be able to import dx7 sysex patches.

Win: http://le-son666.com/software/dexed/dexed-0.7.0-win.zip
OSX (only vst): http://le-son666.com/software/dexed/dex ... sx.vst.zip
https://github.com/asb2m10/dexed

There was a FM synth not long ago: https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/osc-63-vopm

I'm sure it can be added to the list, though.

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:07 pm

z.prime wrote:There was a FM synth not long ago: https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/osc-63-vopm

I'm sure it can be added to the list, though.

Damn, I joined too late and love FM it's so 80ies

doctorbob · Post by **doctorbob** » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:16 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote: Damn, I joined too late and love FM it's so 80ies

Sure is so 80's ... still have my trusty DX-11 by my side. The internal battery died but got a new one on fleabay and replaced it - that was heckof a pain to dismantle and fix, but it's just fine. Nice MIDI on it and the aftertouch is nice to play with too!

dB

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:33 am

doctorbob wrote:
Hanz Meyzer wrote: Damn, I joined too late and love FM it's so 80ies
Sure is so 80's ... still have my trusty DX-11 by my side. The internal battery died but got a new one on fleabay and replaced it - that was heckof a pain to dismantle and fix, but it's just fine. Nice MIDI on it and the aftertouch is nice to play with too!

dB

Nice, I bet the keyboard is far better than everything from today. Do you have a song where you used it?

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:47 am

Chris-S wrote:
Saukar30 wrote:SONG TITLE: The Intergalactic Funking of Lt. Veronica Killagroove
Dynamic Range: 6
How did you measure the DR?

Like this:

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:23 pm

V'ger wrote:
Chris-S wrote:
Saukar30 wrote:SONG TITLE: The Intergalactic Funking of Lt. Veronica Killagroove
Dynamic Range: 6
How did you measure the DR?
Like this:

What is this DR good for? The higher the better?

EDIT: Oh, found a mac version: http://www.dynamicrange.de/sites/defaul ... or-MAC.zip

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:29 pm

Yes, it's to counter the 'Loudness War' and ear fatigue connected with too compressed audio etc:

http://www.dynamicrange.de/en/faqtech-info

It used to be a requirement to include the DR number when entering tracks in this competition, but was later dropped and now just voluntary.

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:30 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:What is this DR good for? The higher the better?

It's the overall dynamic range measurement of the track, by whatever algorithm they use. Basically, close to 0 you have no dynamic range and everything is squashed to the same volume the whole track. So, generally, the higher the "better", yes. Although I think at about 10, you have a fairly high dynamic range throughout the track, so anything over doesn't really add much to the listener. At 4, things are pretty overcompressed... something like that. I'll shoot for 1 with my track this month!

Chris-S · Post by **Chris-S** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:43 pm

I've already played a bit with this DR meter. When you run it as VST you can always see the current DR based on the difference between peak level and RMS level. I've not yet understood how the global DR (for the whole track) is calculated.

But maybe this should be discussed in another thread. Back to Synth1 please.

doctorbob · Post by **doctorbob** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:28 pm

z.prime wrote: Although I think at about 10, you have a fairly high dynamic range throughout the track, so anything over doesn't really add much to the listener. At 4, things are pretty overcompressed... something like that. I'll shoot for 1 with my track this month!

HeHe Z! Wham Bam, Ouch my ears!

The DR for my Synth1 track is 11, so that's perhaps just right eh?

dB

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:25 pm

doctorbob wrote:
z.prime wrote: Although I think at about 10, you have a fairly high dynamic range ...
...The DR for my track is 11, so that's perhaps just right eh?

At about 10, there is a fairly large dynamic range, reasonable amount of volume variation. Modern electronic music can have a DR of 4 or so, depending on the genre.

excessional · Post by **excessional** » Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:29 pm

I felt that, in the absence of being able to add vocals to the song, it seemed a little 'samey' throughout, so I threw together a 8 bar break section and have inserted it to add some more melodic variety...

https://soundcloud.com/andy-mcnish/exce ... erunners-2

KVR Synth1 Challenge Oct 14
Sonar X3 Studio DAW
8 instances of Synth 1
Only 'Bladerunner' 64 patch soundbank used
'Bladerunner' Patches used 11, 27, 42, 56, 57 (3x instances), and 62.

In DAW only FX:
Panning (static)
Pro Channel EQ (on each track)
BT Stereo Imager (on strings and arps)
Volume Automation only

No external FX.

All composed from scratch using step sequencer and piano roll with a little help from Korg Microkeyboard (except midi loops used for lead in middle

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One Synth Challenge #68: Synth1 by Ichiro Toda