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funkynoya · Post by **funkynoya** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:49 pm

placemat wrote:If you want a really good selection of 80s drums, give http://www.beatmachine.co.uk a try. I've bought LOADS from there and they are cheap. The Italo Disco packs are pretty awesome for punchy gated drums of the 80s.

Thanks ! They sound really nice...

soul_junkie · Post by **soul_junkie** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:29 am

funkynoya wrote:I listened your drums now ,kick drum is almost same ,could you please told me which Vengeance samples are they ? That kicks will be my go to kicks !

All drums re Essential House 2. I didn't save it, so not sure which ones.

funkynoya · Post by **funkynoya** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:36 am

soul_junkie wrote:
funkynoya wrote:I listened your drums now ,kick drum is almost same ,could you please told me which Vengeance samples are they ? That kicks will be my go to kicks !
All drums re Essential House 2. I didn't save it, so not sure which ones.

Thanks my friend

soul_junkie · Post by **soul_junkie** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:23 pm

funkynoya wrote:
soul_junkie wrote:
funkynoya wrote:I listened your drums now ,kick drum is almost same ,could you please told me which Vengeance samples are they ? That kicks will be my go to kicks !
All drums re Essential House 2. I didn't save it, so not sure which ones.
Thanks my friend

You're welcome. As I said earlier, try those, and also sample some disco loops to get that more live feel & sound.

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:26 pm

Joining this topic ... does someone know, where to get those punchy drum sounds like Mitch Murder uses?

And also those toms and long gated snares and claps and oldschool cowbells and other stuff, like in those tracks:
http://rossocorsarecords.bandcamp.com/track/slipstream
http://rossocorsarecords.bandcamp.com/t ... night-mall
http://rossocorsarecords.bandcamp.com/t ... od-heights
https://soundcloud.com/daataa/mitch-mur ... ler-angels
https://soundcloud.com/daataa/mitch-murder-metro-city
https://soundcloud.com/daataa/mitch-mur ... ture-theme (@1:58)

soul_junkie · Post by **soul_junkie** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:40 pm

Wow, that's like a Harold Faltermeyer retrospective!! Love it, going to chekc this fella out.

A lot of Lindrum sounds in there (the claps, percussion, top of the kicks and even snares)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmjLHLuYUWU

The kicks and snares are definitely processed but probably sourced from other old drum machines as well.

Have a look at Best Service - Drums Overkill. All the old drum machines and a lot of sounds by style.

To get them really punchy you'll want to compress to bring out the attack - and reverb will give you snare hits sound. Put the verb on a bus with a gate after it, then send to the bus and adjust to taste.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:40 pm

80s drums in a nutshell: Linndrum, Oberheim, Emu, Alesis, Akai, Roland x0x. Phil Collins gated snare. Also, don't forget that everything you're hearing has been run through eq and compressors, compressed to mutitrack tape, compressed to mixdown tape, mastered, etc. Find something that sounds close and start sculpting it's frequency and dynamics response.

funkynoya · Post by **funkynoya** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:38 am

soul_junkie wrote:Wow, that's like a Harold Faltermeyer retrospective!! Love it, going to chekc this fella out.

A lot of Lindrum sounds in there (the claps, percussion, top of the kicks and even snares)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmjLHLuYUWU

The kicks and snares are definitely processed but probably sourced from other old drum machines as well.

Have a look at Best Service - Drums Overkill. All the old drum machines and a lot of sounds by style.

To get them really punchy you'll want to compress to bring out the attack - and reverb will give you snare hits sound. Put the verb on a bus with a gate after it, then send to the bus and adjust to taste.

Yeah this has a really live feeling i love it !

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:10 am

From the original question the sound you are wanting is the breakbeat layered over the standard drums you can find on a million sample CDs. If you want to avoid copyright infringement you can make breaks like this with a flexible drum package like addictive drums, bad, or one of the native instruments abbey road series. Most will have presets based on genre to get you started. In this instance you are looking for disco which started in the seventies and kept on going til halfway through the eighties. You'll want to program your pattern by hand to give it a live feeling and you probably won't need more than a one bar loop. I would suggest rendering it so it sounds the same every time and doesn't sound too real. You'll want to band limit it pretty severely on the low end to make room for the actual club drums you'll be layering over it and a bit on the top end to make it sound old. All the other stuff in the later questions are just direct samples of old PCM drum machines.

If you don't care about copyright infringement there is a humungulous pack of breakbeats floating around the web that are labeled by artist and BPM and also pre sliced into Rex files with recycle. About half of those breaks are very similar to this one. I believe the pack was compiled by somebody with the screen name loachm. So it shouldn't be hard to find.

funkynoya · Post by **funkynoya** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:06 pm

Ah_Dziz wrote:From the original question the sound you are wanting is the breakbeat layered over the standard drums you can find on a million sample CDs. If you want to avoid copyright infringement you can make breaks like this with a flexible drum package like addictive drums, bad, or one of the native instruments abbey road series. Most will have presets based on genre to get you started. In this instance you are looking for disco which started in the seventies and kept on going til halfway through the eighties. You'll want to program your pattern by hand to give it a live feeling and you probably won't need more than a one bar loop. I would suggest rendering it so it sounds the same every time and doesn't sound too real. You'll want to band limit it pretty severely on the low end to make room for the actual club drums you'll be layering over it and a bit on the top end to make it sound old. All the other stuff in the later questions are just direct samples of old PCM drum machines.

If you don't care about copyright infringement there is a humungulous pack of breakbeats floating around the web that are labeled by artist and BPM and also pre sliced into Rex files with recycle. About half of those breaks are very similar to this one. I believe the pack was compiled by somebody with the screen name loachm. So it shouldn't be hard to find.

You summarized it well ! Actually i was working with native instruments abbey road before reading your post! I made nice simple disco beats with it ,and layer it with kick drum and i made an extra low kick layer for sub frequency,it works great!

Samboskull · Post by **Samboskull** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:30 pm

Not exactly what you're looking for, but if anyone else is interested in 80's drum sounds, check out my track here:

https://soundcloud.com/esbeesy/horrorman

I used some Linndrum samples that I acquired from somewhere, can't remember where but a quick google search should yield you with plenty of results. Or even a decent emulation, Aly James has a Linndrum VSTi that kicks ass.

Then, the secret herbs and spice, in the 80's there was a certain Solid State Logic recording console that had a compressor in it for a talk back mic between the recording booth and the studio. If you follow this link, it has a little anecdote from a studio engineer who worked with Phil Collins, detailing the apparent discovery of that 80's drum compression sound. Even better, it contains a link to a free VST emulation of the LMC-1 which is what I used on that track.

http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/lmc-1/

(The final master is purposely made to sound like a crusty old 80s track because it was made for a cheesy horror film my friend was making.)

funkynoya · Post by **funkynoya** » Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:28 am

Samboskull wrote:Not exactly what you're looking for, but if anyone else is interested in 80's drum sounds, check out my track here:

https://soundcloud.com/esbeesy/horrorman

I used some Linndrum samples that I acquired from somewhere, can't remember where but a quick google search should yield you with plenty of results. Or even a decent emulation, Aly James has a Linndrum VSTi that kicks ass.

Then, the secret herbs and spice, in the 80's there was a certain Solid State Logic recording console that had a compressor in it for a talk back mic between the recording booth and the studio. If you follow this link, it has a little anecdote from a studio engineer who worked with Phil Collins, detailing the apparent discovery of that 80's drum compression sound. Even better, it contains a link to a free VST emulation of the LMC-1 which is what I used on that track.

http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/lmc-1/

(The final master is purposely made to sound like a crusty old 80s track because it was made for a cheesy horror film my friend was making.)

Thanks man,i checked out Aly James's Linn drum vst ,it's amazing ,also thanks for LMC-1 !

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:09 pm

Thanks for the tip with the LinnDrum!
Found some samples of it, which actually work quite good when processed.
Also totally overlooked all those other old drum machines ... always thought there were only those Roland-things, which I am not a fan of.

Best things are those toms! xD
https://app.box.com/s/0omxilo8os6ds8f6jspe

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:42 pm

^ The Toms sound great. I haven't been following the conversation. Are they from a Linn Drum? Thanks...

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:58 pm

Linn 9000 it says.

old school