Spire Synthesizer
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- KVRAF
- 5813 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
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- KVRAF
- 2912 posts since 13 Apr, 2008 from Charleston, SC
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 422 posts since 10 May, 2009
Meet the Top 100 DJs Sounds for Spire from Banger Music Records!
http://reveal-sound.com/sounds.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhpEEiC ... e=youtu.be
http://reveal-sound.com/sounds.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhpEEiC ... e=youtu.be
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 25 Apr, 2014
Joseph Hollo is probably the worlds greatest living sound designer, and he released a set of pads/horns/strings/etc for Spire that has since seen no competition. If you want one non-trance patch set, this is the one set you will want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osm1QM117cM
http://www.sound.artenuovo.com/emotion.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osm1QM117cM
http://www.sound.artenuovo.com/emotion.html
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11053 posts since 12 May, 2008
The Spire forum doesn't seem to get responses so maybe here would be a better place to discuss this.
I recently realized that oscillators can be used as modulation sources and destinations in the mod matrix, meaning that fm is possible between any oscs.
I did notice though that changing the parameters like pitch or waveshape of the source oscillator did not change the sound of the destination if the source osc mixer level was at 0 (but still not muted). Changing the oscillators parameters when it's used as a mod source only affects the destination if the oscillator's mixer value is above 0.
Just to clarify with an example, if you set osc 1 as mod source in the matrix and osc 2 pitch as destination, and then bring up the mod amount, now osc 1 is modulating osc 2. Have the volume of osc 2 up and osc 1 all the way down. You can clearly hear that osc2 is being modulated by osc 1 as it has a distinctive FM sound. But when you change the waveform shape or pitch of osc 1 it does not affect the sound. Now bring Osc 1 volume just above 0 and suddenly parameter changes in osc 1 do affect the sound of osc 2 as you'd expect. Note that osc 1 wasn't clicked "off" it was just at 0 volume which is what you'd normally do if you just want to use it as a modulation source.
IMO, this should not be the case - you don't always want to mix in an oscillator that is an fm source. It doesn't make a big difference if it's only raised to a value of 1, but seeing as oscillators have an off mode, it's strange that the modulator osc needs to be above 0 volume and I would suggest that the modulation should function the same regardless of whether the source is brought up in the mixer. I'm curious if this is intended for some reason.
The cool thing about Spire is that it can actually work as a 4 osc FM synth since the modulation matrix allows routing an osc to the parameters of another osc. So you can do frequency or phase modulation or modulate lots of other parameters by an oscillator. Actually plenty of other destinations can be modulated by an oscillator pitch as well, it's pretty darn flexible.
I recently realized that oscillators can be used as modulation sources and destinations in the mod matrix, meaning that fm is possible between any oscs.
I did notice though that changing the parameters like pitch or waveshape of the source oscillator did not change the sound of the destination if the source osc mixer level was at 0 (but still not muted). Changing the oscillators parameters when it's used as a mod source only affects the destination if the oscillator's mixer value is above 0.
Just to clarify with an example, if you set osc 1 as mod source in the matrix and osc 2 pitch as destination, and then bring up the mod amount, now osc 1 is modulating osc 2. Have the volume of osc 2 up and osc 1 all the way down. You can clearly hear that osc2 is being modulated by osc 1 as it has a distinctive FM sound. But when you change the waveform shape or pitch of osc 1 it does not affect the sound. Now bring Osc 1 volume just above 0 and suddenly parameter changes in osc 1 do affect the sound of osc 2 as you'd expect. Note that osc 1 wasn't clicked "off" it was just at 0 volume which is what you'd normally do if you just want to use it as a modulation source.
IMO, this should not be the case - you don't always want to mix in an oscillator that is an fm source. It doesn't make a big difference if it's only raised to a value of 1, but seeing as oscillators have an off mode, it's strange that the modulator osc needs to be above 0 volume and I would suggest that the modulation should function the same regardless of whether the source is brought up in the mixer. I'm curious if this is intended for some reason.
The cool thing about Spire is that it can actually work as a 4 osc FM synth since the modulation matrix allows routing an osc to the parameters of another osc. So you can do frequency or phase modulation or modulate lots of other parameters by an oscillator. Actually plenty of other destinations can be modulated by an oscillator pitch as well, it's pretty darn flexible.
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 21 Feb, 2013
Hi,
just discovered this synth and going through the various demos..
I'm really interested in reproducing those Oxygene 2 sweeps/laser/bubbly sounds (for lack of better description)
I downloaded the demo,but could not find them.
Where they created with spire ? I would appreciate any guidance/help in reproducing them (a project file in logic would of course immensely appreciated)
The synth seems really nice, albeit a little cpu intensive. Going through the presets now.
just discovered this synth and going through the various demos..
I'm really interested in reproducing those Oxygene 2 sweeps/laser/bubbly sounds (for lack of better description)
I downloaded the demo,but could not find them.
Where they created with spire ? I would appreciate any guidance/help in reproducing them (a project file in logic would of course immensely appreciated)
The synth seems really nice, albeit a little cpu intensive. Going through the presets now.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 422 posts since 10 May, 2009
Please get this preset!stoca01 wrote:Hi,
just discovered this synth and going through the various demos..
I'm really interested in reproducing those Oxygene 2 sweeps/laser/bubbly sounds (for lack of better description)
I downloaded the demo,but could not find them.
Where they created with spire ? I would appreciate any guidance/help in reproducing them (a project file in logic would of course immensely appreciated)
The synth seems really nice, albeit a little cpu intensive. Going through the presets now.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 422 posts since 10 May, 2009
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DISCOUNT CODE: BLACKFRIDAY2014
Click BUY NOW at http://reveal-sound.com/ and proceed to checkout.
Enter the code to get your discount.
Special price for Spire EDU - 70% discount
http://reveal-sound.com/educational.html
Hurry up! Offer expires November 30th, 2014!
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 21 Feb, 2013
Thanks! Playing with it now...From what I undertand this sound is achieved by modulating the pitch and cutoff of osc 1 (what type of waveform?) with LFO1, which rate is controlled by the ENV 3 of which modwheel controls the decay... am I missing anything else ? The modulations possibilities of Spire are immense...vega555 wrote:Please get this preset!
Discount is appealing too...
Thanks again!
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11053 posts since 12 May, 2008
People apparently aren't interested in discussing how Spire actually works. I posted questions here and at the Reveal forum and nothing.kokotte wrote:hi everybody,
can somebody can tell me what is , in the mod Matrix, osc/send2FL ?
its not in the manuel
thanks in advance
BTW, what ever happened to the summer lower cpu update?
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- KVRist
- 217 posts since 4 Jan, 2013
