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fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:40 pm

This topic is another of those...

Anyway, here is another name (not that gender matters anything to me): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaija_Saariaho

chalaby · Post by **chalaby** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:28 pm

arkmabat wrote:Is all this just marketing to sell to more females? Take note! None of the female KVRists have responded, and I can think of at least two active members who have probably seen this and skipped over it. Maybe they see *this thread* as offensive and divisive? Hmm.

No. This is not a marketing ploy. It's a timely subject and hopefully your female colleagues will chime in at some point...

chalaby · Post by **chalaby** » Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:33 pm

RunBeerRun wrote:
chalaby wrote: Respectful comments only, please...
Well there goes the fun. My guitar teacher of 4 years is a female, but that was a while back when I saw her. I've tried teaching females to play guitar, the beginning is different because they have different hands. It's the left hand, look at any experienced female guitarist, it still looks female.

They could probably play a midi guitar, it's just buttons.

You should check out Annie Clark aka St Vincent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Vincent_%28musician%29

I first saw her at ACL about 5 years ago. It was just her, a guitar, and a mess of stomp boxes (including a looper). She sings too...

chalaby · Post by **chalaby** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:10 am

deastman wrote:I understand that this topic is well intentioned, but I fail to see what can be gained by listing anecdotal examples of women working in the music industry. We all know that the industry is discriminatory and chauvinistic. No list is going to change that.

I disagree. Shout outs to women who have fought through the chauvinism and discrimination you describe provide worthwhile examples for both men and women. Personally I would have rather have had someone like Angela Merkel as president of the US, than George W. Bush. She studied physics in college and I wonder what she had to go through before she became Chancellor of Germany. As far as I know she doesn't play an instrument, but she's a great example for young women who might think about a career in politics.

Astralv · Post by **Astralv** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:16 am

I am a female electronic music producer, thanks for asking. Also I resent the fact that you were only asking about software instrument designers. I build computers. Is it techy enough? I don't think producing music is less technically advanced than making instruments. Also I did not learn how to make instrument yet. Usually I can learn anything. This approach did not work once- when I had to take 2 semesters of organic chemistry. Was kind of tough for musician attending a medical school. Feel free to check out my soundcloud page and my web site, if you curious. Thanks for the attention.

chalaby · Post by **chalaby** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:33 am

Hi, I'm sorry if I have caused any resentment. My intention was to point out the fact that the industry is uneven in terms of gender. It sounds like you have done some interesting things. Building computers is certainly techy enough. Have you ever felt that your were perceived differently because you are a woman?

I think that as more women play instruments (whether they have keys, strings, or CPUs), more women will design instruments. And that's going to make things better...

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:38 am

Carla Scaletti of Symbolic Sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th5uM9AU8DQ

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:24 am

Astralv wrote:I am a female electronic music producer, thanks for asking. Also I resent the fact that you were only asking about software instrument designers. I build computers. Is it techy enough? I don't think producing music is less technically advanced than making instruments. Also I did not learn how to make instrument yet. Usually I can learn anything. This approach did not work once- when I had to take 2 semesters of organic chemistry. Was kind of tough for musician attending a medical school. Feel free to check out my soundcloud page and my web site, if you curious. Thanks for the attention.

Nice to have you onboard!!!

Astralv · Post by **Astralv** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:38 pm

I post on many forums, particularly- Tom's Hardware forum for computer builders. I am used to hear, "Don't worry about it, dude", or "it is not that hard, man..." People assume that they talk to the guy. I am almost 99% of time the only chick on the forum. I include it in my signature, "I am female", and I still get "Dude". Which is ok. But I correct it because some time women can act differently, like asking detailed questions or be emotional and if public thinks- it is a guy, they may misinterpret it. Like some time i would say something cute or flirty, and everybody thinks I am weird. Well- I am a girl. This is why I dramatize everything. I do get more patient replies when they know I am a girl. The guys would be like, "Alright- it is a female- she needs more help- she is more needy than us...". I also sing, so when I post my music as "Vlada Astral", many people think- my partner made music and I was just singing, so I have to clarify that all electronic keyboard work and recording was done by me. I just have a guy on the picture next to me as a groupie. (lol- just kidding). I know that I wanted to sign a record deal with Armada records, and they have no women on their label. I am wondering if it also depends on certain sex orientation and they market cute guys for guys... But yes, the issue is there. Women have no time for electronics. They have families to take care of, children to raise, job to attend to provide for their children.

Kraznet · Post by **Kraznet** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:13 pm

chalaby wrote:
RunBeerRun wrote:
chalaby wrote: Respectful comments only, please...
Well there goes the fun. My guitar teacher of 4 years is a female, but that was a while back when I saw her. I've tried teaching females to play guitar, the beginning is different because they have different hands. It's the left hand, look at any experienced female guitarist, it still looks female.

They could probably play a midi guitar, it's just buttons.
You should check out Annie Clark aka St Vincent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Vincent_%28musician%29

I first saw her at ACL about 5 years ago. It was just her, a guitar, and a mess of stomp boxes (including a looper). She sings too...

Yes I'm a big fan of her.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:57 pm

Astralv wrote:I am a female electronic music producer, thanks for asking. Also I resent the fact that you were only asking about software instrument designers. I build computers. Is it techy enough? I don't think producing music is less technically advanced than making instruments. Also I did not learn how to make instrument yet. Usually I can learn anything. This approach did not work once- when I had to take 2 semesters of organic chemistry. Was kind of tough for musician attending a medical school. Feel free to check out my soundcloud page and my web site, if you curious. Thanks for the attention.

You reminded me of this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-30135148

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:01 pm

V0RT3X wrote:Carla Scaletti of Symbolic Sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th5uM9AU8DQ

Awesome stuff! Make me want one.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 7:15 am

chalaby wrote:
deastman wrote:I understand that this topic is well intentioned, but I fail to see what can be gained by listing anecdotal examples of women working in the music industry. We all know that the industry is discriminatory and chauvinistic. No list is going to change that.
I disagree. Shout outs to women who have fought through the chauvinism and discrimination you describe provide worthwhile examples for both men and women. Personally I would have rather have had someone like Angela Merkel as president of the US, than George W. Bush. She studied physics in college and I wonder what she had to go through before she became Chancellor of Germany. As far as I know she doesn't play an instrument, but she's a great example for young women who might think about a career in politics.

I do see your point. I would just prefer to see these individuals celebrated for the quality of their work rather than their gender. It's like earlier in this thread when someone listed Wendy Carlos, and someone else predictably followed that up with "not strictly female"... as if she hasn't had to deal with even more discrimination and public ridicule than most biological women! I agree that, as a discriminated minority in many industries, it is important to acknowledge and celebrate the contributions of women. I'm just not sure that a list of everyone we can think of who happens to be somehow involved in the industry is the best way to accomplish this goal. Anyway, I seem to be in the minority here, so I'll just bow out now and let the list continue unhindered.

beltrom · Post by **beltrom** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:08 am

I never understood why Gina Jacobi didn't get huge at least here in Sweden. She's been at it since mid eigthies at least. Writes most of the music and (great (but you have to trust me on that)) lyrics.
She's kind of semifamous or cult maybe...

Her third album (1989)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvX4HxQTmJI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-7VEY5WuEU

Actually she have daugthers following her footsteps it seems:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S47u9_FB-1Y

RunBeerRun · Post by **RunBeerRun** » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:22 pm

St. Vincent is very cool, producing/mixing is very loud.

Women in the music industry...