The software world offers the potential for totally new idioms, but we still tend to have interfaces that look like hardware. Ideas like "knobs and sliders", even making things look like wires and metal faceplates and wooden boxes. In the virtual world we aren't even limited to three dimensions, but we're still in an era when user interfaces are models of physical things. It's easy to understand why that's the case, and easy to imagine that sooner or later someone is going to blow our minds by stepping not just "out of the box" but into another dimension.zxant wrote:Thanks for explaining.idfpower wrote:ITB = in the box. As in people using computers and software as main environment for creating music as opposed to using hardware exclusively (OTB). In the hardware world, modular systems are popular; but to me the modular plugins seems a bit...oddzxant wrote: ITB? .
Why should the software world be different from the hardware?
I think it's total freedom to be able to patch the modules like you want to ...
Best freeware instruments of 2014?
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- KVRAF
- 4222 posts since 23 Feb, 2004 from Tucson Arizona USA
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- 11031 posts since 12 May, 2008
Dexed for sure. But OBXD is a close second. Great year for classic synth enthusiasts looking for free stuff. One great FM synth and one great Analog VA. Even for mac users. I can't say I've heard of any of the others so it's not like I can do a fair comparison. Are of the others available for mac?
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- KVRian
- 1134 posts since 22 Aug, 2004 from Edge City, the Low Country
idfpower wrote:Because it is: there are virtual synths that don't or can't exist in hardware form, as well as analogue emulators that simply can't match the character & tone of the real thing. And there's nothing wrong with that - different is okzxant wrote:Why should the software world be different from the hardware?
As for virtual modular systems...IMO they're good for one thing only: as an introduction into the modular world and maybe (hopefully) helping in aquiring a taste for building your own hardware system. Hardware modulars frequently include modules from different manufacturers - each with its own character & features. That's one thing you can't do with plugins. Plus the total randomness of the real deal and the "fragility" of the obtained sound(s) that need to be recorded right away or lost forever - as opposed to hitting the "save preset" button
Anyway, different strokes for different folks, I guess
OK, idf.. I see your point.
But I live in a shoebox apartment. Wouldn't have the space (or the inclination) to build a 'real' studio. I'm just an amateur hobbyist!
For me it's just a way of playing and 'experiencing' myself the sounds (*) that I grew up with.
(* the sounds of Schulze & TD, and also Jarre and Vangelis, although they didn't use big modulars so much I think (and then there's also Synergy, also great! who played the very first modular, in Bell Laboratory even before Moog!))
And that's why I'm so fond of (big) modulars!
All the best!
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- KVRian
- 1494 posts since 13 Sep, 2012
Heh, same herezxant wrote:But I live in a shoebox apartment. Wouldn't have the space (or the inclination) to build a 'real' studio. I'm just an amateur hobbyist!
So ftm I too work 100% ITB. Truth be told, there's more than enough stuff (both in the freeware and/or payware world) to help you make music with just a computer So there's no actual need to stack your house with bulky hardware But honestly, there's something so inspiring & fun when you're touching & tweaking real knobs and sliders or patching gear and so on My main instrument is bass so I guess I got used to using real instruments instead of plugins, heh
That being said, I do own a few hardware synths, but due to limited space I stick to 25 keys only units (small footprint - it helps). Looking for a couple of cool older desktop modules as well You know, just enough stuff to cover the surface of a desk without cluttering the living space too much and getting on the nerves of my wife
On a different note, Gearslutz is a fun place to visit if you're interested in (older) hardware: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... ps-91.html Really cool & interesting
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- 159 posts since 25 Sep, 2013 from Zaragoza (España)
"Dexed for sure. But OBXD is a close second" +1
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- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
+1 Pretty good vintage year thisEchoes in the Attic wrote:Dexed for sure. But OBXD is a close second. Great year for classic synth enthusiasts looking for free stuff.
Got to take into account all the free plugs the KVR DC 14 also generated, and also there are new free vX version of plugs, ST3, GigMate 2 etc
So no doubt a good year
- KVRist
- 150 posts since 20 Dec, 2013 from Montreal
wow ! I'm quite happy to see Dexed having some love !!! but my vote goes to Obxd:
1. Obxd was release this year and Dexed is not released yet (technically, Dexed shouldn't be there, but I hope it will be there in 2015).
2. 2DaT did a great job on this emulation. To me, Obxd is the best OB-* family emulation out there. I actually own a OB-8 and bringing this monster on gigs scares me out so this little plugin does a great job for this. Unlike commercial product that simply ships a 1.0 version and don't care afterwards, 2DaT is still working (or was, but looking on his activity on github, he still commits code) on filter tuning and stuff. Extra kudos.
3. It is open source.
1. Obxd was release this year and Dexed is not released yet (technically, Dexed shouldn't be there, but I hope it will be there in 2015).
2. 2DaT did a great job on this emulation. To me, Obxd is the best OB-* family emulation out there. I actually own a OB-8 and bringing this monster on gigs scares me out so this little plugin does a great job for this. Unlike commercial product that simply ships a 1.0 version and don't care afterwards, 2DaT is still working (or was, but looking on his activity on github, he still commits code) on filter tuning and stuff. Extra kudos.
3. It is open source.
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- KVRist
- 439 posts since 20 Jun, 2005
Obxd FTW!
Go my girly little synth!
Dexed will be Plugin Of The Year 2015.
Go my girly little synth!
Dexed will be Plugin Of The Year 2015.
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 5 Aug, 2006
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I found it, downloaded it. And also tested that it would read DX7 files - it does - and there's tens of thousands of those out there, so if you want presets, load a bank or two. This ancient page has a big file of SYX's. Enough to keep you busy for month.http://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/mth192/pages/html/dx7.html (http://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/mth192/pages/html/dx7.html)
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- KVRAF
- 2163 posts since 17 Jan, 2008
where do I find out how to load the syx files? thanks for the link.watermaj wrote:I found it, downloaded it. And also tested that it would read DX7 files - it does - and there's tens of thousands of those out there, so if you want presets, load a bank or two. This ancient page has a big file of SYX's. Enough to keep you busy for month.
http://homepages.abdn.ac.uk/mth192/pages/html/dx7.html
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- KVRAF
- 4534 posts since 17 Jun, 2013 from very close to Paris, France
I'm currently making a huge collection (which will contain these among many others) WITHOUT ANY DUPLICATE. It takes time...
I'm making it for the users of Dexed but it will be usable by everybody since it is native sysex files... and they all will be tested to remove systematically the corrupted files (tons and tons and tons in all these collections).
For the moment there is a first version here on my web space: http://black.winny.free.fr/MAO/Dexed_cart.zip
It is compatible with all the DX7 family synths and emulations, software as well as hardware (as soon as they read the sysex files, of course).
I'm making it for the users of Dexed but it will be usable by everybody since it is native sysex files... and they all will be tested to remove systematically the corrupted files (tons and tons and tons in all these collections).
For the moment there is a first version here on my web space: http://black.winny.free.fr/MAO/Dexed_cart.zip
It is compatible with all the DX7 family synths and emulations, software as well as hardware (as soon as they read the sysex files, of course).
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- KVRAF
- 1624 posts since 14 Sep, 2007 from www.koeln.de/en/
Judging from this poll, I will have to take a look at Dexed and OBxd, I guess
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- KVRer
- 7 posts since 9 Jan, 2007
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bpblog has put out its list of 2014, seems to be a concensus that Dexed and OBXD is the top instruments
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/12 ... gins-2014/
Tunefish is no 5 on that list though, while Fish is no 3 here
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/12 ... gins-2014/
Tunefish is no 5 on that list though, while Fish is no 3 here
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A pre-release of that was already made public back in 2011.pestomusic wrote:MLVST's PG8X is not on the list? Okay, then Dexed and PG8X next year
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... hilit=pg8x
Even though it was updated in 2014, it is still not released officially, hopefully that will happen in 2015