How many compressors is enough?
- KVRAF
- 3879 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat
Is another compressor really going to change your music for the better? Or should you be focusing/spending your money on other things?
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- KVRian
- 789 posts since 13 Aug, 2012 from it's all about location!
Compressors don't change music, only the sound.
My suggestion: spend more time, not more money.
While I am only starting to scratch the surface of different compressors now after learning the fundamentals of compression, I'm convinced that a really good sound engineer can produce a variety of great sounding mixes with low budget plugins and a bad engineer will fail miserably even with perfect equipment. I started with the stock compressors of Ableton Live (the glue in v9 is so awesome) and Klanghelm's DC8C (very cool). Then came the NI Supercharger freebie which rocks hard on drums. Now I'd like to test an LA-A2 compressor which seems a lot simpler than the DC8C expert view. I'm on my way to achieve a good sound and I listened to my first stuff from time to time and hear the progress. Learning and experience helps me a lot. Way more than buying a shitload of plugins I can't use.
I would only purchase new stuff as soon as the current setup limits the sound I'd like to achieve. I also suffer from GAS. So be perfectly honest to yourself. That's what keeps me from buying a lot of stuff although I'd like to hit that buy now button so often.
My suggestion: spend more time, not more money.
While I am only starting to scratch the surface of different compressors now after learning the fundamentals of compression, I'm convinced that a really good sound engineer can produce a variety of great sounding mixes with low budget plugins and a bad engineer will fail miserably even with perfect equipment. I started with the stock compressors of Ableton Live (the glue in v9 is so awesome) and Klanghelm's DC8C (very cool). Then came the NI Supercharger freebie which rocks hard on drums. Now I'd like to test an LA-A2 compressor which seems a lot simpler than the DC8C expert view. I'm on my way to achieve a good sound and I listened to my first stuff from time to time and hear the progress. Learning and experience helps me a lot. Way more than buying a shitload of plugins I can't use.
I would only purchase new stuff as soon as the current setup limits the sound I'd like to achieve. I also suffer from GAS. So be perfectly honest to yourself. That's what keeps me from buying a lot of stuff although I'd like to hit that buy now button so often.
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- KVRist
- 460 posts since 18 Apr, 2008
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
They can even destroy itTheKid wrote:Compressors don't change music, only the sound.
I'm no expert on compressors, but the small dozen I use give different results on critical signals, like voices or drums. If I were mainly a sound engineer, I would certainly collect more compressors. But I prefer to collect synths. And .... one compressor from time to time
I agree that spending time with the stuff you have is always a good idea. But if you think that you master more or less what you already have, and want something new, fresh well ..... why not
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- KVRAF
- 3303 posts since 6 Jul, 2012 from Sick-cily
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- KVRist
- 217 posts since 23 Nov, 2014
Honestly I don't see the point in having that many compressors. It seems that a lot of people are obsessed with compression even though it can only help so much in the production of a song.
It isn't the tools you have, it's what you can do with them.
I agree with this, if you have money try spending it on either a good instrument you want or even just save it and dedicate time to working on the music.ariston wrote:Is another compressor really going to change your music for the better? Or should you be focusing/spending your money on other things?
It isn't the tools you have, it's what you can do with them.
- KVRAF
- 4014 posts since 29 Jun, 2011 from USA
Personally I'd be inclined to sell one or two of those from your list and have presswork. It's very good and very versatile.
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- KVRian
- 715 posts since 3 May, 2007 from UK
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- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland
A couple of different flavors is way enough. If you still cannot make it sound good, another compressor will not solve your issue then.
So I'd go 4 different types
1 FET/VCA
1 VariMu
1 Optical
1 Limiter (not really another flavor )
So I'd go 4 different types
1 FET/VCA
1 VariMu
1 Optical
1 Limiter (not really another flavor )
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- KVRAF
- 2063 posts since 14 Sep, 2004 from $HOME
Not if your ambition is to test compressors .deft_bonz wrote:A couple of different flavors is way enough.
For mixing, maybe.
FET and VCA are very different types imho, so you have five here unless you deduct the limiterSo I'd go 4 different types
1 FET/VCA
1 VariMu
1 Optical
1 Limiter (not really another flavor )
Then of course there's also the diode based compressor and the favorite of mine, the belief based compressor ("if I buy this compressor, I believe my mixes will improve significantly!")
- KVRAF
- 1645 posts since 12 Dec, 2012 from Switzerland
True, FET and VCA are different. If I had to choose for only 4, I'd group them like this and then choose one between FET and VCA. But if you can afford 5, then go for one VCA and one FETfese wrote:Not if your ambition is to test compressors .deft_bonz wrote:A couple of different flavors is way enough.
For mixing, maybe.
FET and VCA are very different types imho, so you have five here unless you deduct the limiterSo I'd go 4 different types
1 FET/VCA
1 VariMu
1 Optical
1 Limiter (not really another flavor )
Then of course there's also the diode based compressor and the favorite of mine, the belief based compressor ("if I buy this compressor, I believe my mixes will improve significantly!")
For testing, you need them ALL
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- KVRist
- 307 posts since 8 Oct, 2012
At the OP, if I ask myself that question then a recent reply in another thread comes to my mind. In this thread someone claimed they couldn't really hear much difference between different emulated EQ's on offer, to which the reply was "If you can't hear the difference then you don't need to buy them". BTW is your question posed in relation to picking up something in the good Friday sales?
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- KVRAF
- 1888 posts since 13 Aug, 2011 from Berlin
There can be good reasons to want more or different stuff (What a sentence!)
What I mean by this is that sometimes you are looking for something that you can't put your finger on. You just know that you don't have it yet. Then something new comes along and bamm!!! There you have a big automatic grinn in your faces that you hardly can get rid of. I had this with Diva. For compressors I had a similar experience with DC8C2. Now Presswerk is taking shape and it can do things I like and want to add to my compression arsenal.
If you can moneywise I suggest to use the season and buy some rediculously low priced stuff today, black fryday...
I didn't do so and later wished to have done so. I'm interested in the IK sale right now...
What I mean by this is that sometimes you are looking for something that you can't put your finger on. You just know that you don't have it yet. Then something new comes along and bamm!!! There you have a big automatic grinn in your faces that you hardly can get rid of. I had this with Diva. For compressors I had a similar experience with DC8C2. Now Presswerk is taking shape and it can do things I like and want to add to my compression arsenal.
If you can moneywise I suggest to use the season and buy some rediculously low priced stuff today, black fryday...
I didn't do so and later wished to have done so. I'm interested in the IK sale right now...
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- KVRAF
- 1624 posts since 14 Sep, 2007 from www.koeln.de/en/
you can get by fine just by using the standard compressor of your DAW.
The rest is just a matter of impulse control regarding your GAS.
The rest is just a matter of impulse control regarding your GAS.