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Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:57 am

They've even gone as quiet about overdue promised updates as sylenth1!

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:05 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:They've even gone as quiet about overdue promised updates as sylenth1!

Actually, LennarDigital just made an announcement a few days ago regarding the next update:

Also we'd like to announce that we're close to releasing the new version of Sylenth1 that will fully support 64bit VST and AU for OSX! This update can be expected in the first months of 2015. We'd like to point out that the update will be free for all our customers!

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=427742

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:27 am

Surprised we haven't seen a Spire vs. Hive shootout yet. Spire has a larger range, but still interesting.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:42 am

Unless the CPU use is reduced, Hive will be the better option in my books.

TonyVegas · Post by **TonyVegas** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:22 am

I'm sorry, but if your PC is so weak that it can't run Spire, then you may as well just get a ROMpler because I don't think synths are going to work out for you at all.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:45 am

actually my machine is a beast, but Spire can be one also.
p.s. i've been making music on computers since the 90's dude, no need for douchebaggery.

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:01 am

sqigls wrote:actually my machine is a beast, but Spire can be one also.
p.s. i've been making music on computers since the 90's dude, no need for douchebaggery.

Got to agree...spire can chew the hell out of an i7 given the opportunity, like many others synthmaster, lush, diva to name a few

But then I do like my outboard hardware for the overhead.

Now all I need is some talent!!!

TonyVegas · Post by **TonyVegas** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:06 am

You guys might want to check your setups for virus or something because I'm on a 3 year old i7 laptop and Spire CPU usage is miniscule.

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:18 am

TonyVegas wrote:I'm sorry, but if your PC is so weak that it can't run Spire, then you may as well just get a ROMpler because I don't think synths are going to work out for you at all.

That's a rather crude statement.

If a sound in Spire takes up 20 percent of my CPU, and the almost exact same sound in Zebra takes 5 percent, then I know which synth to choose.

Of course I can use Spire for some bass/leads etc., but some patches just don't work CPU wise (on a Core i3.)

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:41 am

TonyVegas wrote:You guys might want to check your setups for virus or something because I'm on a 3 year old i7 laptop and Spire CPU usage is miniscule.

I think it really depends on the presets and settings that are in use. Get the same with Synthmaster, although like Spire, the CPU usage has decreased.

To be honest I often find with a lot of synths, in bypassing the effects, particularly reverbs and delays the CPU hit is reduced. I actually prefer to use independant delays and reverbs with a majority of synths onan fx send any way. Simply having something like B2 or Valhalla verbs on a single channel serving a multitude of tracks, has a pleasing result and good resource economy. However any patches with long sustain and using chords or multi keying, will wack the ASIO up.

As far as virus, setups and systems go I am extremely confident there is no issue. Spire being miniscule, is an understatement, but it's got a lot better. To be honest with Cubase 8's improved ASIO I have found a lot of scope for more headroom - which is a good thing.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:05 pm

it's unison and the like really. When I made my own patches i could cut down on CPU use. The sound Spire spits out is fantastic compared to the CPU use generally, but when loading some patches while browsing new sounds in a project that is getting quite loaded already, can produce serious pulses of processor drainage. I'm very keen for the release candidate of Hive. I don't really have a bread and butter synth anymore, except for Massive, but I'm not so fond of Massive really, for some reason. Diva is my goto now, but I quicky learned that it's not really bread and butter synth

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:28 pm

TonyVegas wrote:I'm sorry, but if your PC is so weak that it can't run Spire, then you may as well just get a ROMpler because I don't think synths are going to work out for you at all.

I myself am able to run detuned saw 8 instances playing only 2 voice melody on core i7 4790K

Its not a weak CPU, synth is CPU hungry and everyone knows that

But the sound quality is just really amazing, at one point you can justify the CPU use

But I still hope teased version 1.10 will come soon with some heavy CPU performance improvements

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:57 pm

Most people don't realize, but even Sylenth can eat a bunch of CPU when making big trance supersaws with long release times.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:08 pm

2ZrgE wrote: If a sound in Spire takes up 20 percent of my CPU, and the almost exact same sound in Zebra takes 5 percent, then I know which synth to choose.

Fair enough, but comparing an over 10 year old synth to a 1 1/2 year old (?) one isn't a fair comparison. Obviously it will take more CPU, because the sound engine makes use of the performance of nowadays machines.

That said, i'm also hoping for the update, especially for running Spire on my cheapo i3 notebook.

My guess would be that they're working hard on it.

Logictree · Post by **Logictree** » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:25 pm

The problem is no synth could use multi-core (or thread) to process one instance. At least in LPX it is the case. Too many patches are almost unusable on my Macbook Pro (i5 CPU). Mere few notes could render a load of crackle.
If LPX allows Spire to use multi-thread process, I can simply bounce in place one track and work on next. And I'll say let Spire be an even more beast, I don't care.

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