KVR Audio

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:30 am

Looks like a lot of fun!

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/oscillot/

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:12 am

Awesome!
Live is just an amazing Sound Design Machine.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:56 am

This is depressing. Why can't Cubase users get something like this?

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:39 am

Looks good making custom instruments within DAW (hopefully faster than with Synthmaker).
Not sure if I would need it in near future, though. Some questions:

- Does it include samplers?
- How are instruments saved / stored and are they CPU / memory efficient?
- Is it possible to add custom modules?

dave dove · Post by **dave dove** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:34 am

there is already this:
https://www.ableton.com/en/blog/beap-po ... -max-live/
https://cycling74.com/wiki/index.php?ti ... um_Outline
but oscillot is more convenient

@DJ Warmonger
yes it includes samplers
save patch as a M4L preset
depends on your CPU
yes you can add custom modules - there is an SDK

in depth here:
http://maxforcats.com/category/oscillot/

it will also talk to outboard modular gear
if you have the right interface/soundcard

dave

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:00 am

And with max 7 integration of all the m4l devices will be a cinch

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:23 am

GAS attack

Logictree · Post by **Logictree** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:24 pm

Geek's toy. I've tried Max for Live, never like it. Couldn't make even one decent sound out of it. It's like Reaktor, you could throw thousand modules into an instrument. But if this instrument couldn't make great sounds what's the point? And you have to spend lot time to learn how to program. This kind of things are not for me. Spire and Dune 2 are my kind of instruments:
1, No need to learn anything unnecessary, so more time for music.
2, Sounds amazing, so using these instruments just like playing a stinking expensive grand piano, thrill all the time.
3, Almost ALWAYS sounds amazing, no matter how you tweak those knobs. This is different from no.2. Most soft synths I've tried could make decent sounds, if you're willing to spend lot time to tweak those knobs, and follow an army of effects. But Spire and Dune 2 are totally frustration-free. It's hard to make an ugly sound from them.
4, Simple but still deep, so you don't have to worry you money is wasted on few sounds. Instead the possibility is limitless.

dave dove · Post by **dave dove** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:29 pm

i'm a geek
love Max7
love Reaktor
i'm sure i will love this...

dave

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:32 pm

Geek's toy. I've tried Max for Live, never like it. Couldn't make even one decent sound out of it. It's like Reaktor, you could throw thousand modules into an instrument. But if this instrument couldn't make great sounds what's the point? And you have to spend lot time to learn how to program. This kind of things are not for me.

Well, modular systems are the tools for sound designers who know what they do or enthusiats who want to experiment with weirdest combinations. If you need some specific sound and other sysnths don't allow it, build your own. With possibilities of modern computers this can be powerful compared to analog modulars.

All in all, the world of music doesn't end with powerful leads.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:33 pm

Fantastic, this looks great fun.

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:40 pm

I don't think you have to be a geek to get into modular synthesis, you just need to know what you're doing (cough). And modular synths are far from being "toys".

Oh, and it's actually pretty easy to make Dune 2 sound bad... again, if you know what you're doing.

This looks really interesting, would love to hear first-hand reports on CPU usage with complex patches. Live is not really the king of optimization.

lnikj · Post by **lnikj** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:52 pm

Logictree wrote:Geek's toy. I've tried Max for Live, never like it. Couldn't make even one decent sound out of it.

That's possibly your problem, not Max4Live's.

Logictree wrote: Simple but still deep, so you don't have to worry you money is wasted on few sounds. Instead the possibility is limitless.

No, with a modular, the possibilities are limitless (or certainly, less limited than with a synth with limited signal paths).

wasi · Post by **wasi** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:26 pm

We heard you liked modular, so we put a modular in your modular.

BEAP is the same thing and free, no? I find $100 is a lot to ask, considering.

Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:08 pm

It's not free no. $100 is fine, it's niche after-all.

I still wish Nord G2 became native.

Finally a new modular! (But it's in M4L)