170-220 bpm Hi-tech Psytrance Production

[android 19]

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Hi I'm brand new to this forum and was wondering if anyone can help with the hi end sound heard in this song

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaZ2MprzUXI (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PaZ2MprzUXI)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCtUfZGq7o (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCtUfZGq7o)

My favorite

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZtStBUXtIs (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZtStBUXtIs)

This music is unreal to me and I barely understand what I'm hearing. Idk if anyone here can identify, but any input would be greatly appreciated. I'm trying to jump right into this style.

Thank you very much big psy hugs to you all!

[DJ Warmonger]

Someone on Youtube mentioned it's all FM synthesis. This is probably true, no substractive filter will make it with such tempo.

BTW, these tracks are greatly produced!

[do_androids_dream]

Blimey! So bpm's are on the rise again in psytrance!! That music just makes me feel anxious lol. Thankyou for the psy hug - have one back Which high pitch sounds are you referring to? Percussion or the melody/squarky synth lines? Are you looking to make these sounds yourself from scratch or do you want to know what hardware synths to go for? The Nord Lead 1/2 is the king in psytrance - nothing better for creating those thin but cutting sounds and hammer bass lines.

[PurpleSunray]

Yes, it's FM, check:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4#p6049014

> The Nord Lead 1/2 is the king in psytrance - nothing better for creating those thin but cutting sounds
Hmm i prefer the virus over the nord for such fuzzy hightechy stuff, sounds more 'metalic'

[do_androids_dream]

Yes, it's FM, check:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4#p6049014

> The Nord Lead 1/2 is the king in psytrance - nothing better for creating those thin but cutting sounds
Hmm i prefer the virus over the nord for such fuzzy hightechy stuff, sounds more 'metalic'

Yeah I agree if you want a more fuzzy sound. The Nord was the sound of older psy of the 90's (I'm an old codger in terms of the history of psytrance lol!)

[android 19]

thank you! I listen to all types of psy trance goa, forest, darkpsy but so far this is the best one that has caught my ear.

I've seen producers that have giant modular moog style synthesizer with many knobs and cables 20k and better racks worth of equipment, which makes producing this music seems easier having full control over the squishy noises

So the squishy squeaky noises are sine or noise waves cut off and lfo applied. Each layer of sound seems to stretch the whole entire song like a long jam of modular log switchups

but I do know that this music can be made on a computer and I was basically wondering which virtual synths or plugins seem best

I imagine you would need to see multiple oscillators. an editable oscilloscope at least 5 to 10 seconds of being able to edit the wave, apply the lfo, filter cutoffs, lfo speed, phase rate, lfo shape and speed 1stc anywhere in the wave and have full control over the drop of volume and control etc

Then record and edit that wave further through ableton but I cannot seem to find a good enough virtual synth that I can have multiple editable waves like that for a period of time

Thank you very much for your answers so far I'm trying virtual synth to virtual synth day to day looking for the best one

[android 19]

thank you! I listen to all types of psy trance goa, forest, darkpsy but so far this is the best one that has caught my ear.

I've seen producers that have giant modular moog style synthesizer with many knobs and cables 20k and better racks worth of equipment, which makes producing this music seems easier having full control over the squishy noises

So the squishy squeaky noises are sine or noise waves pitch bends and cut off and lfo applied. Each layer of sound seems to stretch the whole entire song like a long jam of modular log switchups

but I do know that this music can be made on a computer and I was basically wondering which virtual synths or plugins seem best

I imagine you would need to see multiple oscillators. an editable oscilloscope at least 5 to 10 seconds of being able to edit the wave, apply the lfo, filter cutoffs, lfo speed, phase rate, lfo shape and speed etc anywhere in the wave and have full control over the drop of volume and control etc

Then record and edit that wave further through ableton but I cannot seem to find a good enough virtual synth, that I can have multiple editable waves like that for a period of time

Thank you very much for your answers so far! I'm trying virtual synth to virtual synth day to day looking for the best one!

[heybuddy]

Check out FM8, Albino (oldie, but super solid - you can probably find a seller here on KVR), and Surge!

[Josmoker]

While this is nice work, I think you can easily be fooled by the high bpm which might make everything seem much more complex and hard to grasp than it actually is. No special devices required, an FM capable synth, a sampler and a lot of attention to detail will probably do.