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Nightpolymath wrote:LOL that first list is pretty normal. :D I have most of those mentioned; it's been a bad habit for many years (collecting Beethoven cycles, that is). But to repeat the ones worth having are Norrington, Harnoncourt, Gardiner, and I will also add Mackerras and Zinman to the list. Barenboim if you want a somewhat Romantic interpretation. Karajan if you want Teutonic coldness. Solti for some theatrics (never noticed his farts, though, they must have Melodyned it out). Avoid the Jarvi cycle, it's the worst IMHO. The rest are so so. But get Carlos Kleiber only for the 5th and 7th. It's a classic recording.
So let me understand this correctly.
You are saying they are sane!
Hey, that even rhymes. :lol:

If I ever start a Beethoven cycle I will take your advice. :lol:

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I just stumbled across this, made by a 16 year old girl so she qualifies for the age thing. A nice relaxing piece for late nights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAAX3WEmMjw
Always look on the bright side of life

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Kalamata Kid wrote:
piel wrote:Dmitri Shostakovich, Krzysztof Penderecki, György Kurtág, György Ligeti from the eastern block.

Liszt?
György Kurtág
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... g+symphony
A few that I heard were not of my liking.
It is the percussive crystalline sounds that I do not like. I like full orchestral pieces but there are many exceptions to this rule. Many. If you have a specific work for me to try let me know.

György Ligeti
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... i+symphony
Heard a few pieces but none turned me on.

As for Dmitri Shostakovich, I have some of his works but cannot recall the names. As Penderecki years ago I briefly liked Utrenja. But then lost all interest in it.

Found this by Penderecki and like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfLcw3N-faA

I will add all four cmpsoers to my list to get their CD's from the library and perhaps Under a more relaxed time I will appreciate them
Wow.
WGBH Music: Sean Chen - György Ligeti's Etude No. 13, L'escalier du diable (The Devil's Staircase)
even though not a symphony I love it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24CdWr3WBfY

However the end of the world is near:
Mysteries of the Macabre György Ligeti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDTFWXhLbU

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NightofNi wrote:I just stumbled across this, made by a 16 year old girl so she qualifies for the age thing. A nice relaxing piece for late nights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAAX3WEmMjw
Beautiful piece!!! Too bad it is so short!

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Kalamata Kid wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote:
Asyla except for the ugly parts is nice. I can hear you saying “the ugly part is the best part”. Was I right?
Not at all, in fact I prefer the subtle and quiet parts in Asyla, some very delicate and quite string ambiences, just beautiful. But some of the polyrhythmic "techno"-stuff just sounds spectacular and is well composed (and often badly played, as the classically trained musicians can't really cope with this sort of stuff).
My apologies. Did not mean to slender you. :roll:

I do like the delicate parts and nowadays and hate perhaps a too harsh of a word to use here the loud drum and other crashing percussive sounds. I find them distracting and in poor taste. Are they meant to awaken the audience? Hey at one time I used to like that so I should not be so rude. :D
Dang the spell check! Slender? No Slander but this is also wrong, libel more correct. But in any case I hope you understand that I did not mean to "defame you" as a joke, perhaps not very funny, more stupid on my part than anything. I was just a tiny bit surprised at your answer, that is that it seems you liked the loud and the soft and delicate about equally as much. Oh well. Surprise! Surprise!

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When I was a youngster I recall some mention of the 3 great Bs, referring, of course, to Bach, Beethoven and Brahms, and I remember thinking how arbitrary that kind of classification was. That said, and without taking into account all the requirements (pre-WWII, orchestral, etc.) I would now like to propose that any serious conversation on this topic not ignore the X, Y, Zs of modern music. :hihi:

Xenakis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI
Zorn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bucQXimcU5s
Zappa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTeTUse0dy0
Someone else can supply the Ys...:P :ud:

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Kalamata Kid wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Kalamata Kid wrote:
Asyla except for the ugly parts is nice. I can hear you saying “the ugly part is the best part”. Was I right?
Not at all, in fact I prefer the subtle and quiet parts in Asyla, some very delicate and quite string ambiences, just beautiful. But some of the polyrhythmic "techno"-stuff just sounds spectacular and is well composed (and often badly played, as the classically trained musicians can't really cope with this sort of stuff).
My apologies. Did not mean to slender you. :roll:

I do like the delicate parts and nowadays and hate perhaps a too harsh of a word to use here the loud drum and other crashing percussive sounds. I find them distracting and in poor taste. Are they meant to awaken the audience? Hey at one time I used to like that so I should not be so rude. :D
Dang the spell check! Slender? No Slander but this is also wrong, libel more correct. But in any case I hope you understand that I did not mean to "defame you" as a joke, perhaps not very funny, more stupid on my part than anything. I was just a tiny bit surprised at your answer, that is that it seems you liked the loud and the soft and delicate about equally as much. Oh well. Surprise! Surprise!
:) Relax, don't apologize, this is just a conversation about music, and yes, I equally like the soft and subtle and the loud and experimental, the tonal and atonal, the rhythmical and the stochastic, the minimal and the complex, the serious and the light, no either or with my taste really as long as things don't get to Mozart-like...blasphemy...

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Elliott Carter who was born before the premiere of Stravinsky's The Firebird and while Mahler and Debussy were still alive, yet lived long enough to compose works in this millennium:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_tb0JY2O5U

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You might like:

- Vaughn Williams - Symphony #6

- Bob Zimmerman (not Bob Dylan! ;)) - New Wilderness

Also I could recommend:

- works by Debussy and Ravel (Ravel has a nice orchestration of music of Satie (I think it's called Parade)

- Saint Saens - Symphony #3 ( the 'thundering' Organ Symphony!)
. . . . . . . . . . Dance Macabre

- Stravinski - the Firebird

- Berlioz - Symphony Fantastique

- Carl Orff - Carmina Burana (warning: heavely vocal!)

And if you can stomach it try some music by Tristan Murail (his 'Sept Paroles' is truly a trip 'out of this world'. And yes it is heavely vocal, mostly 'choral' :D)


Finally a tip, don't be put off if you don't like (or 'get') a certain piece of music at this point. Try it again in some 10 years and you might appreciate it. That is my experience ...

Classical music is the only true 'music as Art' experience ... :harp:
 
 
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OK, I know he's a bit obvious, but your description seems to fit some of Philip Glass' output. I've tried to go for the adagio movements:

Symphony No.3 (Third Movement)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf28vvs ... 62&index=3

Symphony No.9 (Second Movement)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTyPp6tTd2E

Violin Concerto No.1 (Second Movement):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsioM3GaAAY

Visitors OST - The Day Room
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdZqYvvsShg

The rest of your description (no vocals, no dissonance etc.) probably removes 80% of what else I would recommend.

If you'll allow me one loud, dissonant with drums piece then allow me a momemt of Narcissism and I'll put in Glenn Branca's Symphony No.16 "Orgasm" for 100 guitars as I am playing in it! (You can see me far right with yellow guitar strap):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tko5z5ynSI

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Olivier Messiaen who besides being a very influential 20th century composer,
was appointed professor of composition in 1966 at the Paris Conservatoire, a position he held until his retirement in 1978. His many distinguished pupils included Quincy Jones, Pierre Boulez, Karlheinz Stockhausen and Yvonne Loriod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zIQ5la2w68

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ive enjoyed some of brett deans pieces
not sure if hes been mentioned?

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