loljancivil wrote:Looks like it to me. And you go on some more:chaosWyrM wrote:ive "gone wild flaming" have i?jancivil wrote:No one said that, though. You probably wouldn't imagine how many people here will see the topic title and , it's been done to death.chaosWyrM wrote:another lie.ghettosynth wrote:
He hasn't discussed iLok at all. He came into the thread calling other people uppity
what i said i didnt like is when people think that because they dont have a problem with it...that no one else should be able to express that they do.
Ben H suggested, quite reasonably that in threads about a product that uses a key for CP that there be moderation of it because of how they get so derailed.
The derailment factor is high and it's real.
This thread itself, I would tend to leave alone but you've gone wild flaming and I'd like to side with the call for moderation. Going this wild does look pretty childish.
Posturing with that bigass meme saying favoring teh dongle is a cult and brainwashed is way over the top.
The OP looks like someone with a lot of systemic problems there, the story told there shouldn't happen. So fine, it's using social media in order to vent. Someone comes in with a pro-dongle view and shit begins to fly. Too much dongle angst at KVR, I think. And I think 'teenage angst' is not far from the mark.Are you addressing me? I don't follow. NB: that isn't an invitation to go on some more with this line.chaosWyrM wrote: as for the meaning...i absolutely never EVER said anything about "favoring" anything. if you would have read this thread...
This is pretty bellicose. I don't happen to share your POV, that doesn't mean I'm particularly stupid. Ben H's remarks which I reinforced were context-bound.chaosWyrM wrote: it is unfair to tell people that they shouldnt talk about a part of the software (or badger them about it when they do) simply because it is unimportant to you.
i hope that was clear enough.
If you read them, you dismissed them in preference to characterizing them to suit your ranting.
Ok, now you're joking?...chaosWyrM wrote: lol...was the paceanetics meme over the top? it was also quite amusing.But now you're not. You doubled down on saying people were acting like iLok is a cult and freaking out. That's flaming, isn't it? How many days you at this so far?chaosWyrM wrote: i absolutely stand by my observation that the pro ilok people have been behaving like brainwashed cult members.
So if someone has a similar amount of energy behind a view you don't share, their behavior is questionable while you think you're ok.chaosWyrM wrote: unnecessarily charging in to defend their iloks from perceived attacks, and trying to tell everyone to just shut up about it already.
You have ghettosynth stating his view, he states that he is interested in balancing the dongle rants for the developers, preferring dongles. That's "uppity".
Ben H who notices reality in that every thread about a product that uses them is subject to be derailed by it, which got old years ago...
and me more or less with that area of viewpoint.
The 'shut up about it already' has a context. You're telling people to shut up as much as anyone. My interest in fighting about fricken dongles is not so high, you know.
Just sayin'
this is gonna be fast...sorry if i dont get to all your points.
lets just put it down to a fundamental difference in opinion as to what constitutes "flaming" shall we? we are miles apart on that.
bellicose? that? wow...again i cant help how thin skinned people may or may not be, if you feel thats bellicose...well ok then...its bellicose to you. i dont know what else to say...other than i think its quite a reach.
was i joking? you mean with the giant joke i posted? also i would appreciate that if you are going to quote me...then quote me...dont edit it. there was more to that that i guess just didnt fit your view enough to include. come on man, at least use an ellipsis to show you cut something out.
now im not...what? i still stand by the observation. again...if you think thats flaming...i dont know what to tell you. i dont.
from the wiki page "Flaming is a hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity."
i wasnt speaking to or about any specific person, and the people i was referencing were acting like ilok was a cult and freaking out. it was an observation. i call it truth, you call it flaming if you want. il could start saying all those people were flaming me and others with their allegations of "whining" and constant "derailing" of topics with their aggressive manner.
i think its downright silly to consider such things as flaming. but apparently you dont...ok.
and talk about context. i never said they couldnt express their opinions. what i said was their behavior was unfair and rude.
im not telling people to shut up...im saying they might want to not be so rude while expressing their opinions.
what was uppity was HOW they decided to express their opinions...not the fact that they did so.
i have zero interest in fighting about dongles...and i havent been. my stance is i wont use them...end of story, nothing to fight about. i also wont roll over just because people dont want to hear that viewpoint.
everyone else can use dongles all day...have a hundred, no skin off my back, but dont tell me i cant mention that i wont use one or belittle me when i do, it isnt very nice.
anyway...thanks for the laughs. i have a plane to catch in a couple of hours. someone tell sampleconstruct i finally left on my vacation...i know he was concerned.
some times you guys are just so stern. lighten up. none of this matters.