KVR Audio

Tjivory · Post by **Tjivory** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:27 am

I've very happy with FL12 and think everything added, enhanced is an improvement for the most part (just need some more getting used to).

On a different not, is it possible to change the color of some piano roll notes (like nonchord tones)?

koalaboy · Post by **koalaboy** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:50 am

Tjivory wrote:On a different not, is it possible to change the color of some piano roll notes (like nonchord tones)?

I'm not sure about changing them, but you can (re)create them... just set the colour group in the top-left corner of the piano roll, first.

reflex · Post by **reflex** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:09 am

ENV1 wrote:
tony tony chopper wrote:It's listing twice the same plugins while you only have 1 copy of the DLLs?
Yes.

(It began after starting and canceling a deep scan, if i remember correctly.)

Please report this in our Techsupport forum, so I can take a look at it.

reflex · Post by **reflex** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:24 am

CC4 wrote:The plugin scanning certainly needs work in FL12. A fast scan doesn't correctly handle any of the 64-bit plugins. Only deep scan picks them up.

There's a bug in 12.0.1. It will work better in 12.0.2.

So I tried installing a few new free plugins to see how Fl would handle that. A deep scan didn't pick the new ones up at all. After unchecking the "Rescan previously scanned plugins," I also had to uncheck the "Verify plugins" setting for FL to find them.

If so, that's a bug. Please report it in our Techsupport forum.

reflex · Post by **reflex** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:25 am

Tjivory wrote:I already have all my plugs organized into specific folders for each type. Is there a way fl studio can read them at a folder level to display.

Not really, but I'll think about it for a future version of the plugin scanner (no guarantee it will be added though).

reflex · Post by **reflex** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:26 am

rob_lee wrote:Does Image Line disable user accounts?

(already handled by Scott, I see)

Tjivory · Post by **Tjivory** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:50 am

koalaboy wrote:
Tjivory wrote:On a different not, is it possible to change the color of some piano roll notes (like nonchord tones)?
I'm not sure about changing them, but you can (re)create them... just set the colour group in the top-left corner of the piano roll, first.

Just found out how,simply click on a note to bring up note properties and you can alter the color.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:25 am

CC4 wrote:The plugin scanning certainly needs work in FL12. A fast scan doesn't correctly handle any of the 64-bit plugins. Only deep scan picks them up.

it should - here's how it's supposed to work (please repport if it doesn't, although I'm not sure if the selector is already in the latest installer):

It starts from the principle that you have very little good reason to wanna open a 64 bit in a 32bit host (& vice versa). And if someone opens a 32bit plugin in the 32bit host, IMHO it should open the 64bit version in the 64bit host, it would be pretty bad for a host to start bridging all of the plugins just because it assumes the user really wanted to open a 32bit plugin.

So, you will generally open a plugin and *that's all*, just let FL take care of the rest.

If you DO have a good reason to open a 32bit plugin in a 64bit host, or vice versa, then it's done as an option ("native", "32" or "64bit") in the wrapper settings.

Valid reasons would be:
-access to more memory, even though bridging in 32bit already gives access to 4GB for the whole plugin, yeah, that's a valid reason for some extremely large samplers that have no streaming.
-one of the version has bugs. That's ok for a temporary workaround, but it shouldn't be often.

Invalid reasons would be:
-it only exists as a 32/64bit. Doesn't matter, let FL pick the best.
-"it speeds up my audio/sounds better/accelerates my internets" - if a plugin really sounds different in its 64bit version, it's a bug or something stupid. It shouldn't be any faster either, well not if it's well programmed.

But it's safe to say that most people opening a 64bit plugin in a 32bit host will do it by mistake, and then complain that it eats more CPU (bridged) than usual.
A plugin is a DLL, and its "format" is a system thing between programmers, the user shouldn't have to care about that, and it's not like you were telling Windows itself to use a 32 or 64bit DLL, a process can only access one of its native format.

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:07 pm

the last thing I want

Regnas · Post by **Regnas** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:43 pm

What I want BACK is the replace plugin feature when right click a channel, like in FL 11. The drag and drop only from the browser is not good.

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 2:57 pm

It's still there....

CC4 · Post by **CC4** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:46 pm

tony tony chopper wrote:it should - here's how it's supposed to work (please repport if it doesn't, although I'm not sure if the selector is already in the latest installer)...

Yeah... It doesn't. I think they're aware of that already, as it was talked about a bit here:
http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.p ... 0&t=140478

A deep scan at least gives me the 64-bit ones and I agree, there's no point in having it list both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of the same plug. I'll report the other issue in a bit.

I'm quite happy with a lot of the other improvements.

CC4 · Post by **CC4** » Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:46 pm

reflex wrote:If so, that's a bug. Please report it in our Techsupport forum.

Will do. Thanks.

Regnas · Post by **Regnas** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:01 am

Yorrrrrr wrote:It's still there....

Nope.

Sorry if I was not clear. But I'm talking about vst plugins.
In FL 11 we have the "more..." option in the context menu, which opens that window where you can choose the plugins that will appear in the context menu... it was very helpful imho.... now it only shows IL plugins and that's bad.

Why did IL removed such great feature? I can't understand....

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:24 am

Regnas wrote:option in the context menu, which opens that window where you can choose the plugins that will appear in the context menu

C:\Program Files (x86)\Image-Line\FL Studio 12\System\Tools\PluginScanner

Next best thing? Sorry if I missed the point.

FL Studio 12 Released!