Starting off as producer. Feedback??
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 1 posts since 13 May, 2015
https://soundcloud.com/timdejonge/dzeko ... nd-maestro
Made this a few days ago. Some constructive critisism/opinions?
Made this a few days ago. Some constructive critisism/opinions?
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simon.a.billington simon.a.billington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341278
- KVRAF
- 2365 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
By producer do you mean a beatmaker, or a remixer, or a deejay??
It's best not to use that term unless you actually are looking at producing, it's inaccurate and too confusing.
Pretty much, a producer knows a bit about music, a bit about sound engineering, a bit about crafting sound and audience demographics. They will usually have access to a variety of resources like musicians and engineers, know what it takes to achieve a particular style or sound and how to get the best out of their performers. They will also usually work between a few different genres of music, generally speaking.
That is generally what a producer does.
The question remains, is that what you mean by a producer?? If not then you may want to use one of the other terms above to clarify your intention
It's best not to use that term unless you actually are looking at producing, it's inaccurate and too confusing.
Pretty much, a producer knows a bit about music, a bit about sound engineering, a bit about crafting sound and audience demographics. They will usually have access to a variety of resources like musicians and engineers, know what it takes to achieve a particular style or sound and how to get the best out of their performers. They will also usually work between a few different genres of music, generally speaking.
That is generally what a producer does.
The question remains, is that what you mean by a producer?? If not then you may want to use one of the other terms above to clarify your intention
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DJ Dope-Needlz DJ Dope-Needlz https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=320778
- KVRer
- 27 posts since 24 Jan, 2014
Goede shit!
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- KVRian
- 530 posts since 27 Oct, 2004
Sorry for offtopic question, but which of these terms you would use to describe a person who creates ambient or synthpop music? Just wondering.simon.a.billington wrote:By producer do you mean a beatmaker, or a remixer, or a deejay??
Peace and tolerance
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- KVRAF
- 1905 posts since 24 Apr, 2010
The world has moved on and you are being left behind.......................simon.a.billington wrote:By producer do you mean a beatmaker, or a remixer, or a deejay??
It's best not to use that term unless you actually are looking at producing, it's inaccurate and too confusing.
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- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
I'm in agreement. The term producer isn't "beat maker" or "musician". The word means something else and is father specific in music and then different again in television/film.
What's the point in communication if we don't try to speak the same language when speaking the same language?
What's the point in communication if we don't try to speak the same language when speaking the same language?
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simon.a.billington simon.a.billington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341278
- KVRAF
- 2365 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
That's right look at the credits on songs and albums. Do a search on famous producers throughout history. Most don't make beats.
So okay if you are now calling beatmakers producers, than what are you calling producers?? It's possible to do both, but an old school producer does something entirely different from a beatmaker or deejay. Therefore, they really need to be differentiated from.
But why bother, beatmakers and deejays already have a job title, it's beatmakers and deejays.
It would be so much clearer if people didn't mix up the terminology.
If we suddenly want around calling apples oranges... Then what do we call oranges??
So okay if you are now calling beatmakers producers, than what are you calling producers?? It's possible to do both, but an old school producer does something entirely different from a beatmaker or deejay. Therefore, they really need to be differentiated from.
But why bother, beatmakers and deejays already have a job title, it's beatmakers and deejays.
It would be so much clearer if people didn't mix up the terminology.
If we suddenly want around calling apples oranges... Then what do we call oranges??
- KVRAF
- 1576 posts since 22 Oct, 2004 from Schmocation
Agreed. For the narrow sense of the word meaning the traditional producer role, the term is "the traditional producer role".BDeep wrote:And there was me thinking that, in all kinds of electronic music and especially on this forum, those lines are blurred these days.
Splitting hairs imho.
Reminds me of a music teacher I had who was astonished to learn that The Beatles had a guy whose job it was to come up with the titles for their songs ... The record sleeve said "All titles produced by George Martin".
If the producer is the guy who comes up with ideas and works out how to put things together, then the current usage makes sense.
Personally I prefer to think of my hobbyist self as a "musician" and an "artist". Nothing pretentious about that, it's just that "producer" sounds too much like "sausage maker" or "assembly line operator" to me. I do this to explore, create, learn and have fun, not to manufacture a product.
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simon.a.billington simon.a.billington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341278
- KVRAF
- 2365 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
It becomes unclear when someone asks for tips to become a producer.
At first I thought it was of the traditional variety and it stands to reason people would want to learn how to produce, I know I did. Then as I was writing it later occurred to me it could that could be a reference to beatmaking/deejaying.
Without a context it's impossible to say. Regardless of whether the lines have been blurred some kind of context is required to fully understand the question so it's possible to provide the correct feedback.
At first I thought it was of the traditional variety and it stands to reason people would want to learn how to produce, I know I did. Then as I was writing it later occurred to me it could that could be a reference to beatmaking/deejaying.
Without a context it's impossible to say. Regardless of whether the lines have been blurred some kind of context is required to fully understand the question so it's possible to provide the correct feedback.