One Synth Challenge #75: PG-8X (Jasinski Wins!)

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This may be Balance Masterings last month sponsoring a prize. So last chance to try them out :party: :party: :party:

http://www.balancemastering.com/
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wagtunes wrote: Also like the FX you used. All 3rd party or did some come with your DAW? I am familiar with these two.

Ferric TDS
Limiter No. 6

The rest, not so much.
I don't know if you're not familiar with TAL at all or just not the reverb, but you should check out their stuff if you haven't yet: http://kunz.corrupt.ch/home
A lot of good solid free plugins, I'll probably use at least one of them each OSC, I have so far. Also I'm a big fan of the Noisemaker synth, which had its own OSC back before I knew about all this (wish I had known for that one!)
mehum wrote:
lazarwoolf wrote:I have to have 40 posts by june 1st.... how will I accomplish this?
No, just if you want to vote without participating. My first KVR post ever was my February OSC track.
lol my first post here was for my february track too. And when I was almost finished with like a day left I noticed that bit about 40 posts and panicked for a minute there....
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Hi all,

Just to let you know of a little tweak. I have re-panned the main instruments and their reverb busses, so it sounds a little less "mono-ised" on headphones (was not so apparent on monitors!). :phones:

DR is now 10 - so should please a few here!!! 8) :tu:

Also, as per usual SC has squished the dynamics something awful :( , so if you can, please download the mp3 - and I think it sounds best LOUD :tu: (but that might be these ancient old ears!!! :dog: ).

Please enjoy and think of Philae.

dB
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doctorbob wrote:Hi all,

Just to let you know of a little tweak. I have re-panned the main instruments and their reverb busses, so it sounds a little less "mono-ised" on headphones (was not so apparent on monitors!). :phones:

DR is now 10 - so should please a few here!!! 8) :tu:

Also, as per usual SC has squished the dynamics something awful :( , so if you can, please download the mp3 - and I think it sounds best LOUD :tu: (but that might be these ancient old ears!!! :dog: ).

Please enjoy and think of Philae.

dB
My advice would be to never upload MP3 to Soundcloud. What will happen is that it will go through an extra MP3 conversion to get to Soundcloud's format and in order to do that to an already psycho-acoustically treated file it has to be much more aggressive to reach 128kbps than if you go from a WAV or FLAC.

There's no compressor involved in the conversion so if you think the dynamics have changed it's probably that the transients have been somewhat destroyed in the double encoding.
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actioncat wrote:
wagtunes wrote: Also like the FX you used. All 3rd party or did some come with your DAW? I am familiar with these two.

Ferric TDS
Limiter No. 6

The rest, not so much.
I don't know if you're not familiar with TAL at all or just not the reverb, but you should check out their stuff if you haven't yet: http://kunz.corrupt.ch/home
A lot of good solid free plugins, I'll probably use at least one of them each OSC, I have so far. Also I'm a big fan of the Noisemaker synth, which had its own OSC back before I knew about all this (wish I had known for that one!)
I actually have a number of the free TAL VSTs and really like them. I just wasn't aware of the FX. Will definitely check them out. Thanks.
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mehum wrote: My advice would be to never upload MP3 to Soundcloud. What will happen is that it will go through an extra MP3 conversion to get to Soundcloud's format and in order to do that to an already psycho-acoustically treated file it has to be much more aggressive to reach 128kbps than if you go from a WAV or FLAC.

There's no compressor involved in the conversion so if you think the dynamics have changed it's probably that the transients have been somewhat destroyed in the double encoding.
Sometimes it's OK, but generally I agree, mp3 decoded and then re-encoded to 128 destroys the transients. Going to upload the "wav" file as I am not sure everyone who downloads can play FLAC (which I would prefer!).

Thanks for the extra heads up. :tu:

dB
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doctorbob wrote:
mehum wrote: My advice would be to never upload MP3 to Soundcloud. What will happen is that it will go through an extra MP3 conversion to get to Soundcloud's format and in order to do that to an already psycho-acoustically treated file it has to be much more aggressive to reach 128kbps than if you go from a WAV or FLAC.

There's no compressor involved in the conversion so if you think the dynamics have changed it's probably that the transients have been somewhat destroyed in the double encoding.
Sometimes it's OK, but generally I agree, mp3 decoded and then re-encoded to 128 destroys the transients. Going to upload the "wav" file as I am not sure everyone who downloads can play FLAC (which I would prefer!).

Thanks for the extra heads up. :tu:

dB
PS Done, wav uploaded and the SC track is orders of magnitude better sounding!!!
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Nice! Haven't had time to listen but will today or in the weekend.
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Finally updating my submission for final-master:

Original idea composed within 24h, "Pulsardodger" (Former name: "Buried Alive") is a Drum & Bass track
now using 22 ( used to be just 18 ) instances of PG8X, composed, mixed & mastered in RENOISE
And guys, I fell in love with this synthesizer.
Simple, yet effective for not only useful 80s sounds as somebody has mentioned before
especially if you layer the lead-synth with 3 instances of this beast! :)

https://soundcloud.com/skelpolu/skelpolu-pulsardodger

Internal FX:

+7x Gainer for gain-controlling
+3x Gainer for Sidechaining
+10x Filter for frequencysculpting unnoticable frequencies
+3x Filter for transition-sweeps
+2x Stereo X for reducing the width of some instruments
+7x EQ 5
+2x Distortion (Soft saturation, replacement for heavy EQing)
+2x Exciter
+4x mpReverb
+3x Delay

External FX:

+5x TDR Feedback Compressor II (Peak reduction)
+2x TDR Feedback Compressor II (More attack)
1x Limiter6 (former limiter: 1 W1 Limiter)


Get yo' subwoofers out, 's time for some Drum & Bass! :phones: :borg: :phones:
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Skelpolu wrote:Finally updating my submission for final-master:

Original idea composed within 24h, "Pulsardodger" (Former name: "Buried Alive") is a Drum & Bass track
now using 22 ( used to be just 18 ) instances of PG8X, composed, mixed & mastered in RENOISE
And guys, I fell in love with this synthesizer.
Simple, yet effective for not only useful 80s sounds as somebody has mentioned before
especially if you layer the lead-synth with 3 instances of this beast! :)

https://soundcloud.com/skelpolu/skelpolu-pulsardodger

Internal FX:

+7x Gainer for gain-controlling
+3x Gainer for Sidechaining
+10x Filter for frequencysculpting unnoticable frequencies
+3x Filter for transition-sweeps
+2x Stereo X for reducing the width of some instruments
+7x EQ 5
+2x Distortion (Soft saturation, replacement for heavy EQing)
+2x Exciter
+4x mpReverb
+3x Delay

External FX:

+5x TDR Feedback Compressor II (Peak reduction)
+2x TDR Feedback Compressor II (More attack)
1x Limiter6 (former limiter: 1 W1 Limiter)


Get yo' subwoofers out, 's time for some Drum & Bass! :phones: :borg: :phones:
Okay, I gotta ask. How did you get such a solid kick out of this thing? Mine sounds like silly putty on a hot summer day.

Excellent! I think Jasinski has some serious competition this month. LOL.
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wagtunes wrote:Okay, I gotta ask. How did you get such a solid kick out of this thing? Mine sounds like silly putty on a hot summer day.
Hey ho,
The kick is 3-way-layered. Two for low-oscillation, one for high frequencies. Everything is fairly quick in the decay-department while the high-freq-instance has a nifty resonance on its cutoff - hope that answered your question. :)
wagtunes wrote:Excellent! I think Jasinski has some serious competition this month. LOL.
Ahahaha, much obliged! I'm too biased of my own track to make any objective statement about it. :ud:
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I've decided to put my Cubase project file here, so anyone who owns Cubase Pro 8 can check it out. Here it is:
OSC75.rar
What you need:

- Cubase Pro 8 (no idea if it can be opened in other versions)
- BigKixDippa (https://www.hintonandfairchild.co.uk/pr ... gkixdippa/)
- Voxengo Marvel GEQ (http://www.voxengo.com/product/marvelgeq/)
- Voxengo Overtone GEQ (http://www.voxengo.com/product/overtonegeq/)

I used jBridge to make BigKixDippa 64 bit.
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Revision 1.1, better mix & master, and some composition changes:

https://soundcloud.com/beatdriver408/osc75
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Skelpolu wrote:Finally updating my submission for final-master:
Excellent drums you coaxed out of this thing, impressive :tu: Sounds bit like something from Commodore 64!
Nice track, has this oldskool tracker feeling (made in renoise after all). Very good work!
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool
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Hello!

Here's my second submission to the OSC. I was worried in the beginning that this synth would be buggy after what I read but it has worked pretty well with FL studio. I really like it! I hope you guys enjoy my track and I'm looking forward to hear all the submissions. Last OSC was great :)

All sounds are made from init preset.
19 Instances of PG-8X
DAW: FL Studio
DAW FX: Maximus, Fruity Delay 2, Fruity Reverb, Fruity Compressor, EQUO, Fruity Filter, Fruity Parametric EQ, Fruity Stereo enhancer(x2), Fruity Peak controller.

https://soundcloud.com/meakaale/meakaal ... ampionship
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