Best VSTI's for Synthesizing Electronic Kick Drums
- KVRAF
- 12354 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I can't say which VST is best for synthesizing drums but I can say my favorite is u-he's Bazille (big surprise).
In my opinion, resonating filters are better suited to synthesizing kick drums than most oscillators. One thing you can do with Bazille's filters that makes them particularly nice, you can ping them. This means that if you set the filters resonance to a point just below self-oscillation, sending a short pulse (a very short envelope or burst of noise) to the audio input will cause the filter to ring with a very natural decay. Applying an envelope to the filter frequency while it is ringing produces a very nice kick drum sound and the attack portion can be shaped by making changes to the signal which you are using to excite (or ping) the filter.
One benefit of this method is, since the filter is not constantly oscillating, the phase starts at 0 every time it's pinged.
u-he's Ace can also do this but there aren't as many envelopes to shape the sound.
In my opinion, resonating filters are better suited to synthesizing kick drums than most oscillators. One thing you can do with Bazille's filters that makes them particularly nice, you can ping them. This means that if you set the filters resonance to a point just below self-oscillation, sending a short pulse (a very short envelope or burst of noise) to the audio input will cause the filter to ring with a very natural decay. Applying an envelope to the filter frequency while it is ringing produces a very nice kick drum sound and the attack portion can be shaped by making changes to the signal which you are using to excite (or ping) the filter.
One benefit of this method is, since the filter is not constantly oscillating, the phase starts at 0 every time it's pinged.
u-he's Ace can also do this but there aren't as many envelopes to shape the sound.
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- KVRist
- 73 posts since 21 May, 2002
BazzISM :
http://www.ismism.de/home_e.htm
http://www.ismism.de/home_e.htm
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
With simple sounds like kick drum and drums/percussion in general it makes sense to use samples in my view.
I am using mostly an ancient drum sample module for 10 bucks and my DAW's internal drums
There is an older plugin by Angular Momentum, Kicklab, for 39 dollars.
http://www.amvst.com/kicklab-xxl/
A free stripped-down version of it is also available.
I am using mostly an ancient drum sample module for 10 bucks and my DAW's internal drums
There is an older plugin by Angular Momentum, Kicklab, for 39 dollars.
http://www.amvst.com/kicklab-xxl/
A free stripped-down version of it is also available.
- KVRAF
- 2416 posts since 9 Mar, 2004 from Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
I like Massive, Zebra, Bazille and Z3ta for making kickdrums and other percussion sounds. Then just sweeten them further with some external effects and sample it. A fully-featured synth with lots of envelopes and good modulation capabilities can get you sounds even many specialized drum synths cannot pull off.
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Bazille, NI Massive, Z3ta, PPG Wave, TAL-J8, RePro, Diva, Spire and more
Bazille, NI Massive, Z3ta, PPG Wave, TAL-J8, RePro, Diva, Spire and more
- KVRist
- 379 posts since 29 Jul, 2013 from Toronto
I got a pretty sweet (to my ears) kick out of Spectral this week, just tweaking one of the bundled kick presets. It's just 2 Oscs, a sine for the transient and overall shape plus a pulse wave for some bump, each with a slightly different filter & envelope. I piped the output through my usual (of late) stack of Tricomp ("Drum Machine" preset), Pro EQ, Limiter. Great tech kick, IMHO. And that leaves 2 Oscs and their filters free for more nuanced modeling, perhaps for those who prefer more acoustic sound kicks.
Admittedly, something like Spectral is overkill for a kick, but if you've already got a good, multi-osc/multi-filter synth with phase sync on the oscs, it should be able to bump.
Admittedly, something like Spectral is overkill for a kick, but if you've already got a good, multi-osc/multi-filter synth with phase sync on the oscs, it should be able to bump.
- KVRian
- 541 posts since 15 Jun, 2011 from Betwixt or between
Big fan of xoxos' Bong for electronic drums in general, but for a dedicated kick synth, Saltline's Korzenie Kick has a lot to offer: http://www.saltline.co.uk/korzenie.html
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- KVRian
- 621 posts since 28 Feb, 2011 from Sweden
KickR
It is designed to quick and easy get really goods results tailored to the tracks.
http://www.gudaaudio.com/kickr.php
download frrom http://www.gudaaudio.com/downloadProduct.php
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...oh b.t.w. KickR is my project so obvious bias etc...
It is designed to quick and easy get really goods results tailored to the tracks.
http://www.gudaaudio.com/kickr.php
download frrom http://www.gudaaudio.com/downloadProduct.php
19 Dollaahhss!
...oh b.t.w. KickR is my project so obvious bias etc...
David Guda gudaaudio.com
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- KVRian
- 1074 posts since 1 Jan, 2004
How about Image-Line Drumaxx ?
http://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/Drumaxx/
It's not typical synthesizing, but also it's not using sampled stuff. I actually like playing with it. And it's not only for kicks...
http://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/Drumaxx/
It's not typical synthesizing, but also it's not using sampled stuff. I actually like playing with it. And it's not only for kicks...
Soundbanks: Sylenth, V-Station, Z3TA+, Toxic Biohazard - good EDM Soundbanks
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- KVRist
- 310 posts since 21 Oct, 2008 from new england
Nicky Romero KICK from Sonic Academy is excellent. It is very budget friendly too.
- KVRAF
- 2138 posts since 8 Feb, 2007
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- Banned
- 870 posts since 26 Sep, 2008
Prism has no effect on a pure sinekokotte wrote:if you have harmor, make your kick with it, put a sine,pitch env on, and go ! ( you can scult the attack with prism and or some unisson too),it work perfect
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- KVRAF
- 1736 posts since 26 Feb, 2013 from Sweden
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- Banned
- 870 posts since 26 Sep, 2008
Sounds great, time to start a special deal for Bong!xoxos wrote:there have been several "kick synths" over the last few years. the best of what i have to offer you is in the drumsynth plugin "bong", which has an assortment of relatively flexible algorithms for emulating classics and similar.
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- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
Never saw the fuss with that synth. Very Plastic sounding to me. My favs for making Kicks are Synth1 and Linplug Free Alpha. Both can do very 'tough' sounding kicks (I use them for techno mainly).Tp3 wrote:.
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MicroToniq. AWESOME. You'll never look back with it.
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