in box production. vocals mixing questions!!!
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- KVRAF
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- 8494 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
ok let's say i got mixed a fully instrumental and also mastered it via (obviously) the masterchannel effects.
then i get acapellas, how do you work then?
i normally just re-open my project (with all mixing and mastering settings and channels on) and add the acapellas. BUT then the acapellas get already EFFECTED by the MASTER channel effects too (saturation, eq, compression, limiter), is it ok or should the vocals only get mixed and be UNEFFECTED by the same masterchannel?
then i get acapellas, how do you work then?
i normally just re-open my project (with all mixing and mastering settings and channels on) and add the acapellas. BUT then the acapellas get already EFFECTED by the MASTER channel effects too (saturation, eq, compression, limiter), is it ok or should the vocals only get mixed and be UNEFFECTED by the same masterchannel?
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35171 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
How would it be possible to do a mix without the vocals going through the master channel?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8494 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
re-routing with submixes .thecontrolcentre wrote:How would it be possible to do a mix without the vocals going through the master channel?
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35171 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Please explain a bit more ...Caine123 wrote:re-routing with submixes .thecontrolcentre wrote:How would it be possible to do a mix without the vocals going through the master channel?
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- KVRAF
- 6426 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Isn't this what mixing is about - mix as an entity.
Also a bit puzzled over what you call "acapella" - which to me means arrangement of vocals to work on it's own - that musical background is more or less obsolete, at least need to be very sparse.
To guess - I think you used too much EQ on master if adding vocals become a problem.
If you feel you have to use EQ at all at master - something is wrong - it should be elsewhere.
With less processing on master - adding something is easier.
Also a bit puzzled over what you call "acapella" - which to me means arrangement of vocals to work on it's own - that musical background is more or less obsolete, at least need to be very sparse.
To guess - I think you used too much EQ on master if adding vocals become a problem.
If you feel you have to use EQ at all at master - something is wrong - it should be elsewhere.
With less processing on master - adding something is easier.
- KVRAF
- 15273 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
You made the mistake to "master" before the whole "mix" was ready...
These are seperate processes!
Re. submixes: instead of sending all the tracks to the master bus, you can send them first to group bus channels. Usually you'd have a bus for the drums, one for vocals, etc. On that bus you can apply effects that are for that group only, and set the volume relative to the other groups. Then all the groups are summed on your master bus. It gives another level of control.
These are seperate processes!
Re. submixes: instead of sending all the tracks to the master bus, you can send them first to group bus channels. Usually you'd have a bus for the drums, one for vocals, etc. On that bus you can apply effects that are for that group only, and set the volume relative to the other groups. Then all the groups are summed on your master bus. It gives another level of control.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35171 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
...BertKoor wrote:Then all the groups are summed on your master bus.