The Helsinki towels mystery does the same for mePatchAdamz wrote:This one always makes me smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bFACz5Sh8
The Helsinki towels mystery does the same for mePatchAdamz wrote:This one always makes me smile
Gotta love it!Numanoid wrote:The Helsinki towels mystery does the same for mePatchAdamz wrote:This one always makes me smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_bFACz5Sh8
Indeed, especially as she is called ButcherPatchAdamz wrote:then dissects "Jazz Discard Party Hats"..
Very funny.....
Numanoid wrote:BTW: I just realized the obvious link between Bob Dylan and Carpenters
Zimmermann = Carpenter
I dont buy this "anti-arranging" stuff. For the "rock artist" he had untypical deep roots in the traditional scoring (although self-taughed). The output wasn't far away from Edvard Varese or e.g. Debussy who he admired. Zappa just mixed different genres but his sense of form and method was in the classical music, every single part was well planned.JoeCat wrote:My original comment about Zappa not being an arranger was purely conjecture - I don't know his processes and he may have spent an enormous amount of time arranging. But if he was arranging purposefully he didn't seem to be working towards anything traditional in terms of structure and instrumentation - if anything he often seemed to be "anti-arranging"; I imagine him thinking "that's exactly what they're expecting - let me mess that up". As opposed to the more "How do I make these instruments work together more harmoniously? What can I do to the structure of this piece to have better dramatic impact."
Whatever the case, "Dyna Moe Hum" is not "Yesterday". Which is perfectly fine.
The Carpenters, on the other hand, could have made that a hit.
My point being it may well be purposeful, but not traditional, in the way Debussy was not. So point taken.Harry_HH wrote:I dont buy this "anti-arranging" stuff. For the "rock artist" he had untypical deep roots in the traditional scoring (although self-taughed). The output wasn't far away from Edvard Varese or e.g. Debussy who he admired. Zappa just mixed different genres but his sense of form and method was in the classical music, every single part was well planned.JoeCat wrote:My original comment about Zappa not being an arranger was purely conjecture - I don't know his processes and he may have spent an enormous amount of time arranging. But if he was arranging purposefully he didn't seem to be working towards anything traditional in terms of structure and instrumentation - if anything he often seemed to be "anti-arranging"; I imagine him thinking "that's exactly what they're expecting - let me mess that up". As opposed to the more "How do I make these instruments work together more harmoniously? What can I do to the structure of this piece to have better dramatic impact."
Whatever the case, "Dyna Moe Hum" is not "Yesterday". Which is perfectly fine.
The Carpenters, on the other hand, could have made that a hit.
Not to mention that his arrangements have been performed by countless orchestras/conductors including:Harry_HH wrote:I dont buy this "anti-arranging" stuff. For the "rock artist" he had untypical deep roots in the traditional scoring (although self-taughed). The output wasn't far away from Edvard Varese or e.g. Debussy who he admired. Zappa just mixed different genres but his sense of form and method was in the classical music, every single part was well planned.JoeCat wrote:My original comment about Zappa not being an arranger was purely conjecture - I don't know his processes and he may have spent an enormous amount of time arranging. But if he was arranging purposefully he didn't seem to be working towards anything traditional in terms of structure and instrumentation - if anything he often seemed to be "anti-arranging"; I imagine him thinking "that's exactly what they're expecting - let me mess that up". As opposed to the more "How do I make these instruments work together more harmoniously? What can I do to the structure of this piece to have better dramatic impact."
Whatever the case, "Dyna Moe Hum" is not "Yesterday". Which is perfectly fine.
The Carpenters, on the other hand, could have made that a hit.
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