KVR Audio

Guillermo Navarrete · Post by **Guillermo Navarrete** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:20 am

Hello everyone,

Windows 10 will be released tomorrow and we expect that many of you intend to upgrade - especially because the upgrade will free from Windows 7 and Windows 8.

With the new operating system, Microsoft introduced many changes in regards to audio optimisations and lower latencies.
Also a new MIDI API is part of Windows 10.

We recommend that you do not upgrade to Windows 10 until final testing results are available as it might turn out that some Steinberg products need to be updated to ensure full compatibility.

As soon as we have more details on the progress, we will publish a knowledge base article about the subject.

Best regards,
GN

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:32 am

If you needed a reason not to upgrade..........well there you go!

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:52 pm

I found only a problem with the soft e-licenser (permission problems) maybe a new installation of the e-licenser will solve this.

[edit]
I installed the latest version of the e-licenser and it's working now.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:56 pm

Karma_tba wrote:If you needed a reason not to upgrade..........well there you go!

Your opinion in honor... but it's NOT a reason not to upgrade. It's a reason to wait and see what the companies tests will result in, and when updates are released, IF something needs fixing to be compatible. So please, save your pessimism for the respective threads, or just spare us at all with your opinion. If you choose for yourself not to update, that's perfectly fine. Why go around and make politics?

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:04 pm

After having studied the new features and promises (companies like Microsoft always make) I decided that I really do not have to update my Win7 system.
For the average consumer it may be a good thing, for my DAW system I see no point.

Mace404 · Post by **Mace404** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:23 pm

Guillermo Navarrete wrote:We recommend that you do not upgrade to Windows 10 until final testing results are available as it might turn out that some Steinberg products need to be updated to ensure full compatibility.

Not to be too blunt but you had months of time to sort this out. It's not really a surprise Windows 10 is released today.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:27 pm

They clearly wrote on their website that they will have to wait until Windows 10 is final to be able to do tests because Microsoft always could introduce last minute changes though. But you can be sure that they already tested.

Don't find the announcement now, but they had on in the news, about 1 or 1 1/2 months ago.

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:12 pm

Backed up my system and waiting...calmly waiting, reading forums, waiting, driver updates....waiting....

Worth a note if you on home version with auto updates (although auto updates can be disabled in pro versions).

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/28 ... _conflict/

...until I see ilok, elicenser, soundcard driver, gfx driver, daw all officially released...the upgrade is on pause.

Worth checking the register (and reddit I believe) before you "hit the button"!!!

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:30 pm

chk071 wrote:
Karma_tba wrote:If you needed a reason not to upgrade..........well there you go!
Your opinion in honor... but it's NOT a reason not to upgrade. It's a reason to wait and see what the companies tests will result in, and when updates are released, IF something needs fixing to be compatible. So please, save your pessimism for the respective threads, or just spare us at all with your opinion. If you choose for yourself not to update, that's perfectly fine. Why go around and make politics?

Forums are THE place for opinions...I have a right to mine and you to yours. Who exactly is the "us all" you refer to, you can only speak for yourself unless you are the leader of a consensus or coalition. So spare me your whining and let's wait and see.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:37 pm

Edit: Removed and apologies.

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:41 pm

chk071 wrote:Ok, then lemme fix your former post for you.
Karma_tba wrote:If I needed a reason not to upgrade..........well there I go!

Disclaimer: these ARE NOT the words of Karma_tba. Post edited by chk071.

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:45 pm

logical symantics

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:49 pm

MFXxx wrote:logical symantics

"Logical" SEMANTICS or not by what right does he edit anyones posts?

Karma_tba · Post by **Karma_tba** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:00 pm

I am far from being alone in my reservations about the Win 10 upgrade. Incompatibility issues already have been documented in other threads( nVidia drivers, iLok manager) As far as I know Novation is the only company who has released an official compatibility list. Granted this is day one, but the fact remains devs have had months leading up to this release. If that is pessimism...so be it.

robotmonkey · Post by **robotmonkey** » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:12 pm

Karma_tba wrote:Granted this is day one, but the fact remains devs have had months leading up to this release. If that is pessimism...so be it.

I have been using the insider preview form the beginning and must say that I would not put all the blame on devs. MS has kept changing things quite a bit and quite regularly breaking compatibility with stuff that was already tuned to work with Windows 10.

And honestly, even the latest release is pretty much half-baked as it is now. It will still need a lot of work. I would hold on upgrading just for that. And obviously, if you have a stable Windows 7 DAW I see no reason to upgrade at all.

Windows 10 - Information on compatibility