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sfd · Post by **sfd** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:58 pm

Is there any synth not listed here?

2ZrgE · Post by **2ZrgE** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:16 pm

Serum, Spire, Diva, Aalto, Kaivo, Bazille, Omnisphere, JP6K.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:19 pm

When I think of high quality and low CPU usage, I think of Helix.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:30 pm

2ZrgE wrote:Serum, Spire, Diva, Aalto, Kaivo, Bazille, Omnisphere, JP6K.

Don't troll please.

fluffy_little_something · Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:44 pm

EnGee wrote:
2ZrgE wrote:Serum, Spire, Diva, Aalto, Kaivo, Bazille, Omnisphere, JP6K.
Don't troll please.

I think he was replying to the post before his

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:53 pm

sfd wrote:Is there any synth not listed here?

I havent seen anyone mentioning SynthMaster. Prior to v2.7 the analog filter consumed a lot of CPU, but starting with v2.7 we made some improvements on that regard by introducing 3 algorithms, so the CPU usage has improved dramatically.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:59 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
EnGee wrote:
2ZrgE wrote:Serum, Spire, Diva, Aalto, Kaivo, Bazille, Omnisphere, JP6K.
Don't troll please.
I think he was replying to the post before his

Yes I noticed the silly question but there is no need to answer it. The answer looked like trolling.

toothnclaw · Post by **toothnclaw** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:10 pm

EnGee wrote:
Ingonator wrote:Actually with pad sounds the CPU use was not as low as i had remembered (uo to around 20% in the Live display).

Thank you Ingo, that's why I said in the first post that I appreciated if you post the cpu usage with one line of your setup.

I know many of us would be surprised if they take the time and measure the cpu usage according to their system. Some, plugins would be higher than we expected and some also lower.

Why would you use Live's CPU meter? Everyone and their dog knows it is absolutely NOT correct and honestly I don't know why it's there at all. I measure CPU performance with e.g. Process Explorer or Reaper's Performance Meter. But Live's and Fruity's CPU meters are worthless. 20% of one core on an i7 or 20% of all cores? Who knows? Who cares?
Etc.

fluffy_little_something · Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:23 pm

Don't DAW meters obtain the CPU load from the Windows Task Manager?

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:36 pm

toothnclaw wrote: Why would you use Live's CPU meter? Everyone and their dog knows it is absolutely NOT correct and honestly I don't know why it's there at all. I measure CPU performance with e.g. Process Explorer or Reaper's Performance Meter. But Live's and Fruity's CPU meters are worthless. 20% of one core on an i7 or 20% of all cores? Who knows? Who cares?
Etc.

A better measurement taken would be by measuring it from within the plugin itself (that's what we do in SynthMaster). Also, the measurement taken should be per CPU in my opinion. Some hosts like Reaper show CPU % in terms of total number of CPUs, that might be misleading.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:44 pm

toothnclaw wrote:
EnGee wrote:
Ingonator wrote:Actually with pad sounds the CPU use was not as low as i had remembered (uo to around 20% in the Live display).

Thank you Ingo, that's why I said in the first post that I appreciated if you post the cpu usage with one line of your setup.

I know many of us would be surprised if they take the time and measure the cpu usage according to their system. Some, plugins would be higher than we expected and some also lower.

Why would you use Live's CPU meter? Everyone and their dog knows it is absolutely NOT correct and honestly I don't know why it's there at all. I measure CPU performance with e.g. Process Explorer or Reaper's Performance Meter. But Live's and Fruity's CPU meters are worthless. 20% of one core on an i7 or 20% of all cores? Who knows? Who cares?
Etc.

Because if Live's CPU meter reaches around 95% you will get audio dropouts. What the Windows CPU display shows does not really matter in that case...

Besides that most plugins do not support multicore so the dispalay in Live shows the use for one Core. With multiple instances also multiple Cores will be used.

Anyway no matter how you measure it if the Live CPU display reaches 100% you have a big problem...

FWIW i also got Cubase 8 and many plugins do use sklightly less CPU there.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:53 pm

didn't read the whole topic but vanguard, pro53 are my two favourite "zero" (really that's how it is on any decent machine these days) cpu synths.

as far as low cpu well there are quite a few!

but my FAVE are the korg collection

All of them.

toothnclaw · Post by **toothnclaw** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:07 pm

Ingonator wrote:Because if Live's CPU meter reaches around 95% you will get audio dropouts.

That is entirely the problem of Live and the hardware, not relevant to plugin CPU usage.

Ingonator wrote:What the Windows CPU display shows does not really matter in that case...

Of course it does, because it's accurate; Live's is NOT accurate. Or use third party diagnostics software - even MORE accurate than Task Manager.

Ingonator wrote:Anyway no matter how you measure it if the Live CPU display reaches 100% you have a big problem...

It matters how you measure it because measurement A) can be correct, and measurement B) can be wrong. As is in the case with Live's CPU meter.

Ingonator wrote:FWIW i also got Cubase 8 and many plugins do use sklightly less CPU there

It is known that Live is the most CPU hungry host. So why are you doing your measurements inside it?

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:24 pm

Karten wrote:Well, I still use Pro-53 and FM7 which use under 1% of my i7.

Try using Pro-53 with one of those oversampling wrappers. Of all the synths I tried with that, the Pro-53 and SQ80L were the two that were helped the most. Both sounded smoother and warmer.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:57 pm

toothnclaw wrote:
EnGee wrote:
Ingonator wrote:Actually with pad sounds the CPU use was not as low as i had remembered (uo to around 20% in the Live display).

Thank you Ingo, that's why I said in the first post that I appreciated if you post the cpu usage with one line of your setup.

I know many of us would be surprised if they take the time and measure the cpu usage according to their system. Some, plugins would be higher than we expected and some also lower.

Why would you use Live's CPU meter? Everyone and their dog knows it is absolutely NOT correct and honestly I don't know why it's there at all. I measure CPU performance with e.g. Process Explorer or Reaper's Performance Meter. But Live's and Fruity's CPU meters are worthless. 20% of one core on an i7 or 20% of all cores? Who knows? Who cares?
Etc.

I'm not after strict measurement. Relative measurement can also be useful. You can use the task manager or Reaper to tell us. After all we don't have the same cpu and setup.
So indeed your remarks are useless regarding the criteria of the OP.

Favourite Synths that uses 10% or less of your cpu