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aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:19 pm

Why would anyone need Haliosonic if they already have Halion? I bought Halion 5 as an upgrade from Halionsonic but don't use Halionsonic now as Halion includes its library plus a lot more editability.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:18 pm

aMUSEd wrote:Why would anyone need Haliosonic if they already have Halion? I bought Halion 5 as an upgrade from Halionsonic but don't use Halionsonic now as Halion includes its library plus a lot more editability.

Good point, as Halion 5 "Includes the full version of HALion Sonic 2" according to specs at Steinberg website.

KingClarkie · Post by **KingClarkie** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:37 pm

Guillermo Navarrete wrote:No, the Absolute 1 collection also needed a USB-eLicenser, just an example, HALion Sonic was included in that bundle and it requires a dongle.

Well, actually the first release of Absolute didn't need a dongle as it didn't include Halion Sonic, just Halion Sonic SE. It was Absolute+ that introduced the need for the dongle.

Guillermo Navarrete · Post by **Guillermo Navarrete** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:58 pm

Hello all,

Due to the strong feedback we have received over the last couple of days, we have revised our initial decision about the upgrade paths of Absolute 2. Thanks again to all of you who contacted us. Your feedback, requests and ideas help us to improve our products and services.

Bellow you can read our official statement:

http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 59#p479337

Best regards,
GN

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:02 pm

Guillermo Navarrete wrote:Hello all,

Due to the strong feedback we have received over the last couple of days, we have revised our initial decision about the upgrade paths of Absolute 2. Thanks again to all of you who contacted us. Your feedback, requests and ideas help us to improve our products and services.

Bellow you can read our official statement:

http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 59#p479337

Best regards,
GN

The problems on OS-X are not just on Yosemite, I am having them too on Mavericks since updating to the latest builds. Halion 5 and Halionsonic 2 cause an exit crash if it has been used in Logic 10.2 at all, and Halion 5 also causes a host crash if it is inserted in any project where Padshop Pro has been used, even if Padshop Pro has been removed.

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:45 pm

"This is the new plan:

We are going to offer additional crossgrades for existing customers of HALion 5, HALion Sonic 2 and Groove Agent 4 to Absolute 2. Unfortunately it won’t be possible to offer individual crossgrades for different product combinations.

The crossgrades will be available with the next eLicenser server update at the end of September."

Wow. Props to Steinberg for listening to and acting on customer feedback.
Quick turnaround too.

Nicely done.

-B

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:55 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Guillermo Navarrete wrote:Hello all,

Due to the strong feedback we have received over the last couple of days, we have revised our initial decision about the upgrade paths of Absolute 2. Thanks again to all of you who contacted us. Your feedback, requests and ideas help us to improve our products and services.

Bellow you can read our official statement:

http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 59#p479337

Best regards,
GN
The problems on OS-X are not just on Yosemite, I am having them too on Mavericks since updating to the latest builds. Halion 5 and Halionsonic 2 cause an exit crash if it has been used in Logic 10.2 at all, and Halion 5 also causes a host crash if it is inserted in any project where Padshop Pro has been used, even if Padshop Pro has been removed.

That's correct, but add retrologue to that list.

No one seems to be listening to the problem i have reported with groove agent 4 on both cubase AND logic either.
I just get "the vst is fine".

But it's NOT.. so those who say it's fine, please disprove my video with an alternate one proving otherwise!

Check out 11:43 in my video - i can repro it on 2 computers

and BOTH cubase AND Logic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wriftrdXTk

Astralv · Post by **Astralv** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:18 pm

I would like to know why there are no updates or new sound libraries were released in so many years for any of the products included other than Grove Agent? Where is Peter Krischker of Easy Sound? Can't he be hired to make new libraries? Nobody in the country making sounds any longer? It has been several years since anything was released. It really is not worth to upgrade. Looks like abandoned product.

Ph-J · Post by **Ph-J** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:03 pm

Guillermo Navarrete wrote:Hello all,
Due to the strong feedback we have received over the last couple of days, we have revised our initial decision about the upgrade paths of Absolute 2. Thanks again to all of you who contacted us. Your feedback, requests and ideas help us to improve our products and services.

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:33 pm

TheoM wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Guillermo Navarrete wrote:Hello all,

Due to the strong feedback we have received over the last couple of days, we have revised our initial decision about the upgrade paths of Absolute 2. Thanks again to all of you who contacted us. Your feedback, requests and ideas help us to improve our products and services.

Bellow you can read our official statement:

http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 59#p479337

Best regards,
GN
The problems on OS-X are not just on Yosemite, I am having them too on Mavericks since updating to the latest builds. Halion 5 and Halionsonic 2 cause an exit crash if it has been used in Logic 10.2 at all, and Halion 5 also causes a host crash if it is inserted in any project where Padshop Pro has been used, even if Padshop Pro has been removed.
That's correct, but add retrologue to that list.

No one seems to be listening to the problem i have reported with groove agent 4 on both cubase AND logic either.
I just get "the vst is fine".

But it's NOT.. so those who say it's fine, please disprove my video with an alternate one proving otherwise!

Check out 11:43 in my video - i can repro it on 2 computers and BOTH cubase AND Logic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wriftrdXTk

After all these years seeing your posts on KVR, now I know what the sound of your voice sounds like

That's cool. Good luck with your Steinberg issues. I have Halion 3, that's it. Totally OT but I recently switched my host to the 64bit version and nearly fell off my chair when I saw there was a 64 bit version of Halion 3 available to me. I thought for sure it would be stuck on 32-bit. It's pretty old... I only use it to open old projects but have been tempted by Halion 5 and Padshop Pro for a few years. Already have too much other stuff. Maybe one day... Sounds like the PC 64bit VST versions are working fine..

don1thedon · Post by **don1thedon** » Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:42 pm

Great listening and reaction Steinberg.

Guillermo Navarrete · Post by **Guillermo Navarrete** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:45 am

Hello all,

The new crossgrade path is now available, customers can now upgrade to the Absolute 2 Collection from:

HALion 5
HALion Sonic 2
Groove Agent 4

You can find it on the following link:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/shop/buy_pr ... ction.html

Best regards,
GN

BERFAB · Post by **BERFAB** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:44 pm

Guillermo Navarrete wrote:Hello all,

The new crossgrade path is now available, customers can now upgrade to the Absolute 2 Collection from:

HALion 5
HALion Sonic 2
Groove Agent 4

You can find it on the following link:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/shop/buy_pr ... ction.html

Best regards,
GN

A wise move. The fast action following consumer feedback is appreciated.

-B

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:48 pm

This is the deals as I understand, by far the best still is to upgrade from Absolute VST collection 1, seeing that cost €299, while HALion cost more (€349)

60% rebate update from Absolute 1
30% rebate crossgrade from HALion 5
20% rebate crossgrade from HS2/Groove Agent 4

don1thedon · Post by **don1thedon** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:38 pm

Yeh, better than a poke in the eye but I had been hoping for a little better. Waiting for the next Steiny sale now then ...

Out now: Steinberg Absolute 2 VST instrument collection