Hi,
I'm not sure if the multi-tap echo is activated only within the palm-muted parts of the song (eg. 1:05).
https://youtu.be/EriCZdLjw7o
What do you think?
Chris
The Shadows and the multitap echo
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- KVRAF
- 2465 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK
Hi Chris,
Sounds like it's on all the time but the sustained notes are masking the delays; you can hear some of the bends are coming back through the delay line.
Those taps are quiet compared to the normal playing, and they sound a bit filtered as well, less lo and hi..
Hope that helps
Love that Strat sound! .. and his technique
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If you feed the guitar into the side-chain of a compressor post the multi-tap, and tweak to drop the gain while playing, the levels will sort themselves out automatically! ..which is what Hank could be doing here..
Sounds like it's on all the time but the sustained notes are masking the delays; you can hear some of the bends are coming back through the delay line.
Those taps are quiet compared to the normal playing, and they sound a bit filtered as well, less lo and hi..
Hope that helps
Love that Strat sound! .. and his technique
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If you feed the guitar into the side-chain of a compressor post the multi-tap, and tweak to drop the gain while playing, the levels will sort themselves out automatically! ..which is what Hank could be doing here..
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3058 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany
Yes, and for guitar beginners it's great fun to play, because the tracks are not too difficult.CinningBao wrote:Love that Strat sound! .. and his technique
PS: I'm using Reaper's ReaDelay, which has unlimited(?) number of taps.
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- KVRAF
- 2465 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK
Here's a basic layout which kind of emulates the thing Hank's doing on stage there with ReaSynth as the Strat, doing a similar pluck sound, and some side-chaining. Just look at the routing for track1 and you'll see what's going on, if you're not already sure, that is
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- KVRAF
- 40242 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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- KVRAF
- 2465 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK
Nice - thanks Aloysius (I've no idea what your name sounds like! - alloy syus?)
Yeah, not entirely sure which VST he's talking about, possibly the IKM version (which doesn't seem to be available anymore), but there are a few others out there
http://www.v-plugs.com/echo_trip_vst_effect
http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/uns ... vol_2.html - Steinberg's old Karlette delay included here
You can probably get quite close with the Reaper tools - bit of convolution to degrade the signal, EQ the edge frequencies away..
Don't be so quick to assume side-chaining is a recent thing - it was first invented in the 1930's to manage sibilance (which is basically what a de-esser is; a compressor responding to the hi frequency energy of a signal. The popular audible use nowadays is the kick side-chained to drop the gain of everything else in today's dance and pop music.
“Side-chaining a compressor to key its gain reduction from a secondary external input is pretty standard stuff – it actually dates back to the 1930s. Doug Shearer first developed the idea while working at MGM Studios at the birth of film sound. Originally it was developed to ‘De-ess’ sibilant voices which were problematic to record as they could easily overload the electronics of the day.”
http://sickmouthy.com/2011/03/14/a-brie ... -chaining/
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I think we've all learnt something today, and there' still time to make music!
Yeah, not entirely sure which VST he's talking about, possibly the IKM version (which doesn't seem to be available anymore), but there are a few others out there
http://www.v-plugs.com/echo_trip_vst_effect
http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/uns ... vol_2.html - Steinberg's old Karlette delay included here
You can probably get quite close with the Reaper tools - bit of convolution to degrade the signal, EQ the edge frequencies away..
Don't be so quick to assume side-chaining is a recent thing - it was first invented in the 1930's to manage sibilance (which is basically what a de-esser is; a compressor responding to the hi frequency energy of a signal. The popular audible use nowadays is the kick side-chained to drop the gain of everything else in today's dance and pop music.
“Side-chaining a compressor to key its gain reduction from a secondary external input is pretty standard stuff – it actually dates back to the 1930s. Doug Shearer first developed the idea while working at MGM Studios at the birth of film sound. Originally it was developed to ‘De-ess’ sibilant voices which were problematic to record as they could easily overload the electronics of the day.”
http://sickmouthy.com/2011/03/14/a-brie ... -chaining/
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I think we've all learnt something today, and there' still time to make music!
