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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:11 pm

It really depends on the synth. You won't find a synth with lots of waveforms or wavetables which is as small as that. And with the Roland System-1, i figure you also have to have software which makes the plug out thing possible, as it's a little different to your usual VST. Bottom line, i don't think Roland will bloat up the file size just to piss people off.

fluffy_little_something · Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:24 pm

They do it because they are lazy and thus don't provide the files separately, 32 vs 64 bit, manual and what not.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:41 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:They do it because they are lazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

But seriously.

I don't know if you're aware of how much work it is to write software. And there's also the thing that Roland sells those plugins for over 100 €, so to say they're just lazy when they don't provide separate downloads, or bloat up the installer is a little adventurous.

Not that i expect to change your mind in any way, think what you think. But for me it's much more handy to have one installer for both 32- and 64-bit installation, and VST, AAX and what not. And most people have a fast unrestricted connection these days, so Roland surely won't only serve the few percent which don't. As i said, i think much of the size is due to the plug-out implementation in the software anyway. Can't imagine the pure plugin to be that big.

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:04 am

There is no reason I'd be worried about the size being 100mb other than the fact I know exactly how much effort it takes to build a plugin, I know exactly how big it should be and what sort of things would take up extra space.

It doesn't have that sort of graphical content. What it is, is more like FL studio. I don't like FL studio's dumb installer because it comes with a huge amount of additional shit I simply do not want. I don't want all those bogus crap quality plugins or samples and wavetables, presets and so on.

Last time I checked the installer didn't even have the option not to install them, so when I was testing the demo of FL studio I was forced to install it, then put in a lot of effort to remove the parts I don't want, then FL studio no longer worked! So instead I reinstalled it, tested what I needed to test, removed it, then found the uninstallation didn't remove those additional shitparts and I had to repeat my effort to remove them afterward.

Lessons learned: 1) FL studio installer is a piece of garbage that comes with massive shit bloatware, 2) The stuff it actually installs is also all garbage.

Next time I'll use a virtual machine or something...

Unlike Reaper for instance which both gives the options to install or remove all components it comes with, and works just fine with none of those components installed. I'm forced to assume that this is due to whoever wrote FL studio being completely incompetent while the authors of Reaper are at least competent enough to write a proper installer.

fluffy_little_something · Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:14 pm

chk071 wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:They do it because they are lazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

But seriously. I don't know if you're aware of how much work it is to write software. And there's also the thing that Roland sells those plugins for over 100 €, so to say they're just lazy when they don't provide separate downloads, or bloat up the installer is a little adventurous.

Not that i expect to change your mind in any way, think what you think. But for me it's much more handy to have one installer for both 32- and 64-bit installation, and VST, AAX and what not. And most people have a fast unrestricted connection these days, so Roland surely won't only serve the few percent which don't. As i said, i think much of the size is due to the plug-out implementation in the software anyway. Can't imagine the pure plugin to be that big.

Why is it better to be forced to download stuff you know you won't use, anyway? And no, most people do not have unrestricted Internet connection, just a tiny fraction of the world population does.

Well, luckily I don't really care about Roland gear, I am more of a Korg and Yamaha guy

cyberheater · Post by **cyberheater** » Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:08 pm

I've tried the demo and I can't run it on my 2009 macbook pro. A single instance overloads one of my cores. Unbelievable.

ClubHo · Post by **ClubHo** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:56 pm

There's an update:
We are pleased to announce that the update for PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Series have been uploaded.

[Software Version]

- SH-101 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.04
- SH-2 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.03
- PROMARS PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.02
- SYSTEM-1 Software Synthesizer Version 1.01
- SYSTEM-100 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.01

[Changes (common)]

- Fixed an issue where the activator displays incorrect error code when the activation failed.
- Improved CPU utilization when working. (Only SYSTEM-1 Software Synthesizer)

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:20 pm

ClubHo wrote:There's an update:
We are pleased to announce that the update for PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Series have been uploaded.

[Software Version]

- SH-101 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.04
- SH-2 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.03
- PROMARS PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.02
- SYSTEM-1 Software Synthesizer Version 1.01
- SYSTEM-100 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.01

[Changes (common)]

- Fixed an issue where the activator displays incorrect error code when the activation failed.
- Improved CPU utilization when working. (Only SYSTEM-1 Software Synthesizer)

I still get v1 when downloading the trial.
Where did you see the v1.01?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:21 pm

Improved CPU utilization when working.

So is that improved cpu utilization when the cpu utilization is working or when the plugin is working?

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:17 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Improved CPU utilization when working.
So is that improved cpu utilization when the cpu utilization is working or when the plugin is working?

It means there is no improvement if you are unemployed.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:25 pm

Mutant wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Improved CPU utilization when working.
So is that improved cpu utilization when the cpu utilization is working or when the plugin is working?
It means there is no improvement if you are unemployed.

That's annoying, I tend to use plugins most on my days off.

ClubHo · Post by **ClubHo** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:41 pm

D-Fusion wrote:
ClubHo wrote:There's an update:
We are pleased to announce that the update for PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Series have been uploaded.

[Software Version]

- SH-101 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.04
- SH-2 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.03
- PROMARS PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.02
- SYSTEM-1 Software Synthesizer Version 1.01
- SYSTEM-100 PLUG-OUT Software Synthesizer Version 1.01

[Changes (common)]

- Fixed an issue where the activator displays incorrect error code when the activation failed.
- Improved CPU utilization when working. (Only SYSTEM-1 Software Synthesizer)
I still get v1 when downloading the trial.
Where did you see the v1.01?

You need to login into your account to download it.

https://account.roland.com/

MillerSam · Post by **MillerSam** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 5:54 pm

Just released the first part of SYSTEM-1 Software Synthesizer Sound Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gKbkhzbskE

Thanks for watching

raymondwave · Post by **raymondwave** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:19 pm

Can someone explain the polyphony in this for me.

It plays chords, but they are kind of "legato", release tails are cut off when new keys are pressed and the attack curves don't play either when you play chord sequence.

Weird stuff.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:27 pm

You mean something other than what limited polyphony usually does to sounds ?
My demo version timed out long time ago and i am too lazy to install it again (if it is even possible).

Roland - SYSTEM-1 Software Synthesizer