KVR Audio

Wildfunk · Post by **Wildfunk** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:46 pm

*bump*

And we want a SQ8L with 64 bit too!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:49 pm

I think it's safe to assume Siggi doesn't want to pick up this project anymore, which means SQ8X won't ever happen, and SQ8L will remain 32-bit forever.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:51 pm

wallplug wrote:Bump

Well I guess the dev cannot live on air alone, if you want the next version of SQ8 I suggest donations are in order: http://www.buchty.net/ensoniq/

Siegfried 'Sigi' Kullmann wrote:Support SQ8L Development
SQ8L was and still is a lot of work. Never the less, and despite ongoing improvements, it is still provided for free. If you like this software, you might want to consider a donation to the Programmer

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:30 pm

Numanoid wrote:
wallplug wrote:Bump
Well I guess the dev cannot live on air alone, if you want the next version of SQ8 I suggest donations are in order: http://www.buchty.net/ensoniq/
Siegfried 'Sigi' Kullmann wrote:Support SQ8L Development
SQ8L was and still is a lot of work. Never the less, and despite ongoing improvements, it is still provided for free. If you like this software, you might want to consider a donation to the Programmer

I doubt that will help much. A donation would be nice though in any case, but nothing the dev will be able to live on.

davidka · Post by **davidka** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:46 am

Any new information about this wonderful synth?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:54 pm

It won't ever happen, it's abandonware.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Feb 05, 2016 5:57 pm

EvilDragon wrote:It won't ever happen, it's abandonware.

It'd be great if some other developer (Arturia?) would/could buy it...

davidka · Post by **davidka** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:15 am

EvilDragon wrote:It won't ever happen, it's abandonware.

I'm sad to read this... Of course not coming as a surprise.

The thing is, that even though it's freeware and "incomplete", it's very well designed and the sound just blasts this 80s feeling instantly. Never crashed for me, and the editing is not that counterintuitive. I wish there would be similar alternatives both soundwise and 'feel' today.
I hope the current emergence of retrowave music will maybe induce a demand for virtual synthesizers that are not strictly analogue emulations...

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:36 am

While SQ8L is indeed very nice there are at least 2 things that could be improved which are 64-bit support and a modern zero delay feedback filter.

As mentioned in another thread when i compared the plugin to my real Ensoniq ESQ-1 the filter seems to lack a lot of low end at higher Resonance amount when compared to the real thing. At no or very low Resonance the low end of the plugin is good.

This sees to be a problem with many older plugins that mostly appears at more xtreme filter settings like e.g. high Resonance and/or audio rate modulations and usually seems to be solved by modern approaches like e.g. zero dela deedback filters or others.

fischkopf · Post by **fischkopf** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:13 am

davidka wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:It won't ever happen, it's abandonware.
I'm sad to read this... Of course not coming as a surprise.

The thing is, that even though it's freeware and "incomplete", it's very well designed and the sound just blasts this 80s feeling instantly. Never crashed for me, and the editing is not that counterintuitive. I wish there would be similar alternatives both soundwise and 'feel' today.
I hope the current emergence of retrowave music will maybe induce a demand for virtual synthesizers that are not strictly analogue emulations...

In what kind of way is it 'incomplete'?

Doc Brown · Post by **Doc Brown** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 1:48 am

It's a shame really. It's a really great synth and it has that lofi retro synth vibe to it. It definitely doesn't sound like ones and zeros. An awesome free synth had the potential to be great but at least we have sq8l and it sounds great. Reaper doesn't have a problem bridging this plug, it runs like a dream.

The Traveler · Post by **The Traveler** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:18 am

From the readme.txt:

The full version SQ8X will have the following additional features:

- Combinations of up to 4 single sounds.
- Multi mode with 16 channels.
- Arpeggiator which allows C64-like chords.
- Adjustable polyphony (far more than 8 voices).
- New Filter algorithms with different modes
(lowpass, bandpass, highpass).
- 2nd Filter and different routing modes for the
filters: serial, parallel, split.
- Improved GUI.

I love this synth and nothing sounds quite like it. The "X" version? Who knows? Instruments have come back from the dead before.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:47 am

I always thought this could be a commercial plug in... Not sure if the developer cares. Maybe there's issues selling something with copyrights of the waveforms still owned by Creative? I think if there's a developer who'd do this right it would be TAL. I can see it fitting in with their offerings. Maybe Audio Damage?

davidka · Post by **davidka** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:57 am

fischkopf wrote:
davidka wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:It won't ever happen, it's abandonware.
I'm sad to read this... Of course not coming as a surprise.

The thing is, that even though it's freeware and "incomplete", it's very well designed and the sound just blasts this 80s feeling instantly. Never crashed for me, and the editing is not that counterintuitive. I wish there would be similar alternatives both soundwise and 'feel' today.
I hope the current emergence of retrowave music will maybe induce a demand for virtual synthesizers that are not strictly analogue emulations...
In what kind of way is it 'incomplete'?

The full version SQ8X will have the following additional features:

- Combinations of up to 4 single sounds.
- Multi mode with 16 channels.
- Arpeggiator which allows C64-like chords.
- Adjustable polyphony (far more than 8 voices).
- New Filter algorithms with different modes
(lowpass, bandpass, highpass).
- 2nd Filter and different routing modes for the
filters: serial, parallel, split.
- Improved GUI.

And yes, the 64-bit version and improvement to the filter would be welcome. Not that any of these takes away my enjoyment. I just wish the SQ-80 will not be forgotten in the virtual domain.

zerocrossing wrote:I always thought this could be a commercial plug in... Not sure if the developer cares. Maybe there's issues selling something with copyrights of the waveforms still owned by Creative? I think if there's a developer who'd do this right it would be TAL. I can see it fitting in with their offerings. Maybe Audio Damage?

I really don't know... I think this would take a different direction from TAL, but I am not aware of Patrick's plans. However, a complete Emulator II library could be ported to TAL-Sampler without much sonical difference. Think of RR OMI Universe of Sounds

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:33 am

This hobby coder put all the commercial devs into shame same for Paul Nasca.Kudos to both of them.

Anyone knows what happened to SQ8X?