Pure Data in your DAW?
- KVRAF
- 4764 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
FYI, two guys from Berlin are developing VST wrappers for PureData patches. It only for 32-bit Mac at the moment (which I use), but they welcome folks who want to help port to other platforms using JUCE: http://pd-pulp.net
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPwRh1xSps
Their facebook and github pages have more info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPwRh1xSps
Their facebook and github pages have more info
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- KVRAF
- 6154 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
http://www.image-line.com/plugins/Tools/FlowStone/bungle wrote:Still have to wonder at this point why no DAW has Synthedit built in, it would be unbelievable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IotQ2oyP91o
- Beware the Quoth
- 33109 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
There has been ta means of running pd as a vst for for a long time (https://puredata.info/docs/HowToInstallPdVst/) but its always been a bit unstable.Michael L wrote:FYI, two guys from Berlin are developing VST wrappers for PureData patches.
This seems a more up-to-date but it looks like it still has the same fundamental problem; because of the way PD is written, you can only run one single instance of it at a time. So even with this, you're limited to running one single plugin.
http://designingsound.org/2013/09/inter ... ann-libpd/
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 24 Aug, 2012
Well, the one plugin limitation could back then be worked around by using linker tricks. That's what Radium is doing. But since then pure data has gotten native support for running several dsp graphs, so using linker tricks should not be necessary anymore.whyterabbyt wrote: This seems a more up-to-date but it looks like it still has the same fundamental problem; because of the way PD is written, you can only run one single instance of it at a time. So even with this, you're limited to running one single plugin.
http://designingsound.org/2013/09/inter ... ann-libpd/
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Radium Music Editor, a tracker-like DAW: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 24 Aug, 2012
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Radium Music Editor, a tracker-like DAW: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 24 Aug, 2012
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Radium Music Editor, a tracker-like DAW: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
- Beware the Quoth
- 33109 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Interesting to know, cheers. I got the Brinkman interview link from the pd-pulp Facebook page, where, as of August, they were still saying they were limited to a single plugin instance, but its good to know that there might be a proven workaround.kmatheussen wrote:Well, the one plugin limitation could back then be worked around by using linker tricks. That's what Radium is doing. But since then pure data has gotten native support for running several dsp graphs, so using linker tricks should not be necessary anymore.whyterabbyt wrote: This seems a more up-to-date but it looks like it still has the same fundamental problem; because of the way PD is written, you can only run one single instance of it at a time. So even with this, you're limited to running one single plugin.
http://designingsound.org/2013/09/inter ... ann-libpd/
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRist
- 154 posts since 24 Aug, 2012
Definitely a proven workaround: http://folk.uio.no/ksvalast/radium_pd.ogvwhyterabbyt wrote:but its good to know that there might be a proven workaround.
And it's simple to make a vst wrapper doing this too (multiple instances + native Pd GUI), just use libpds (https://github.com/kmatheussen/libpd) and write a wrapper. libpds only supports Linux now though, but it might not be hard to support windows and osx. I announced libpds in 2013 and people still seems to believe this is impossible.
Radium Music Editor, a tracker-like DAW: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radium/
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
Radium Compressor: https://users.notam02.no/~kjetism/radiu ... plugin.php
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- KVRAF
- 4460 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
just wondering why it's betten than Reaktor ?
(and it's just the Blocks level for nonnerds )
(and it's just the Blocks level for nonnerds )
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"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRAF
- 2357 posts since 24 Nov, 2012
did they ever fix the poor event timing from synthmaker in flowstone?LawrenceF wrote:http://www.image-line.com/plugins/Tools/FlowStone/bungle wrote:Still have to wonder at this point why no DAW has Synthedit built in, it would be unbelievable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IotQ2oyP91o
- Beware the Quoth
- 33109 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Who claimed it was?xbitz wrote:just wondering why it's betten than Reaktor ?
Its just another alternative in the 'modular toolkit' arena; it does different stuff, differently. Specifically compared to Reaktor, it does some stuff that Reaktor cant do, like run in Linux, or Android. Its open source so it can be modified and extended. Its been embedded in commercial games, and, as per this thread, DAWs. Its a visual programming language; as well as audio processing, it can do text, video and 2D/3D graphics processing, and it can hook up directly to experimental controllers and UI devices. As was already pointed out, what its closest to in purpose and function isnt Reaktor, its MAX/MSP.
And vice versa; Reaktor does some stuff it cant do. Some people will use on or the other, some both, some neither.
If its not better than Reaktor for you, so be it. Its just a tool, same as Reaktor is.
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRAF
- 6154 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
No idea. I tried to make a step sequencer in it and it was... rather difficult... trying to lock it to the daw clock.woggle wrote:did they ever fix the poor event timing from synthmaker in flowstone?
Flowstone is a really nice package though, especially for people who don't code C++. I've made a few good utility plugins for my own use in it.
- KVRian
- 690 posts since 4 Jul, 2011 from England
Camomile is a new wrapper for PD patches. It's available as VST, VST3 and Audio Unit for Windows, Linux and Mac.
https://github.com/pierreguillot/Camomile/wiki
https://github.com/pierreguillot/Camomile/wiki
- KVRAF
- 4764 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Thanks for sharing that. Included patches work well in mac vst. Clear and detailed documentation with FAQ, an Issues forum, and its only the second beta release! High hopes....
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- KVRAF
- 3889 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
What would the advantage if PD over Max?
This enviroments are already time consuming, I wouldnt like to waste time getting them to work insude a DAW when M4L exists.
This enviroments are already time consuming, I wouldnt like to waste time getting them to work insude a DAW when M4L exists.
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