Delay lines with pitch-transposer inside feedback loops ?
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6244 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
I just bought octavox from eventide that is a real dream to tweak, and i'm in heaven when it comes to precise choices of delay times or pitch transposition because you can work both by steps of 0.1 milliseconds of delay time and 1/1000 semitone of transposition
Second to none when it comes to such surgical precision, as far as i know
BUT...there's a "but" on that ballpark unfortunately : Assuming this plugin is primarily designed as a harmonizer, there's NO ways to include pitch transposition INTO the feedback loop, like for instance, a way less sophisticated toy in comparison : the "Pitch transpose A" algorithm included into the Yamaha SPX90 well-known multi-effect of the middle of the eighties
Anything similar into the current virtual arsenal ?
Second to none when it comes to such surgical precision, as far as i know
BUT...there's a "but" on that ballpark unfortunately : Assuming this plugin is primarily designed as a harmonizer, there's NO ways to include pitch transposition INTO the feedback loop, like for instance, a way less sophisticated toy in comparison : the "Pitch transpose A" algorithm included into the Yamaha SPX90 well-known multi-effect of the middle of the eighties
Anything similar into the current virtual arsenal ?
- KVRAF
- 6322 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
You could look at Audio Damage's Discord or Soundtoys Crystallizer but they are both lo-fi based on vintage Harmonizers.
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- KVRian
- 562 posts since 13 Aug, 2005
Valhalla Shimmer and DMG PitchFunk do pitch transposition in the feedback loop. Not sure if they have the kind of precise control you are after .. may be worth a look though.
- KVRian
- 670 posts since 7 May, 2002 from Phoenix, Arizona, USA
Would be a nice option. Feature request?
https://www.eventideaudio.com/community/forum/plug-ins
https://www.eventideaudio.com/community/forum/plug-ins
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6244 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
Indeed, i just checked out pitch funk that has some honorable sound qualities in it mid/side distinct delay processors but it is very difficult to reach the overall sound quality of eventide in that area...ToneCarver wrote:Valhalla Shimmer and DMG PitchFunk do pitch transposition in the feedback loop. Not sure if they have the kind of precise control you are after .. may be worth a look though.
Valhalla shimmer is great, but it's an atypical reverb unit, no delay lines (except the inner network, of course !)
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- KVRAF
- 7400 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
There was one by WOK called PITCHD
I don't know if it's available anymore, but it was free when it was.
EDIT: its available here http://www.vstplanet.com/Effects/Delay7.htm#PITCHD
I don't know if it's available anymore, but it was free when it was.
EDIT: its available here http://www.vstplanet.com/Effects/Delay7.htm#PITCHD
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6244 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
thank you, very relevant and helpfulericzang wrote:Would be a nice option. Feature request?
https://www.eventideaudio.com/community/forum/plug-ins
@camsr ...i'll check this one out but i'm mac based, it's likely window only...
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6244 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
You mean the one from iZotope ?matthines wrote:This thread may pique your interest.. there's a Granular pitch-based delay going for $0
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- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 13 Mar, 2004
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
the other option of course, is to put the delay on a send at 100% wet, and put one of the myriad of pitch shifters into an insert directly after it. You could then put an EQ after that.
Logic's delay designer, my favourite overall delay plugin on this earth, does pitch shift per tap so I have never needed to do it any other way (and it's not something i absolutely need often anyway), but since using logic less and less, if i ever do need that effect again in PT, will do it the send way.
Logic's delay designer, my favourite overall delay plugin on this earth, does pitch shift per tap so I have never needed to do it any other way (and it's not something i absolutely need often anyway), but since using logic less and less, if i ever do need that effect again in PT, will do it the send way.
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- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 13 Mar, 2004
Different thing than having the pitch-shifter in the feedback loop of the delay (what the OP wants).TheoM wrote:the other option of course, is to put the delay on a send at 100% wet, and put one of the myriad of pitch shifters into an insert directly after it. You could then put an EQ after that.
- KVRAF
- 7339 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Echobode is basically this, though it's a shifter rather than a transposer (it linearly shifts frequencies and creates inharmonicity).
Sometimes I'll set up feedback loops with a physical loopback, input -> delay -> granular pitchshifter -> EQ -> limiter -> output.
Sometimes I'll set up feedback loops with a physical loopback, input -> delay -> granular pitchshifter -> EQ -> limiter -> output.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6244 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
In fact it does, not with such a surgical precision as Octavox palette , but in the contrary it does...No_Use wrote:Different thing than having the pitch-shifter in the feedback loop of the delay (what the OP wants).TheoM wrote:the other option of course, is to put the delay on a send at 100% wet, and put one of the myriad of pitch shifters into an insert directly after it. You could then put an EQ after that.
- KVRAF
- 2697 posts since 3 Aug, 2003 from Narnia