Which synth is best for synth punk?
- KVRAF
- 40225 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
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- KVRAF
- 14985 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Considering you have two of the better wavetable synths out there, I'd say forget getting yet another wavetable or other historically digital type of synth and instead get something beefy and analog sounding. Monark would be just the thing. Simple enough to use but with enough tricks to keep it interesting and it can go from sweet and warm to howling scream with a flick of the modulation wheel. Add a bit of feedback and... Magic. Diva does a good job too, and it's extra filter models and polyphony make it even more versatile. If you want to experiment, U-He's ACE is killer. If you want to experiment a lot, just get Reaktor 6. It's new blocks system is super fun and it comes with a whole bunch of amazing -remade synths and a user library of gems.
If you don't mind a bit of hardware, I think the Bass Station 2 is f'n great. Those filters can really scream with the resonance cranked. Add a bit of audio rate mod on the filter... A pinch of feedback and it can get really trashy, but in a beautiful way.
FM synths are also fun to play with. While they got a bad rep doing those horrible 80s bell like digital piano sounds, they're always a tweak away from sounding f'd up. Nemesis is really good IMO.
If you don't mind a bit of hardware, I think the Bass Station 2 is f'n great. Those filters can really scream with the resonance cranked. Add a bit of audio rate mod on the filter... A pinch of feedback and it can get really trashy, but in a beautiful way.
FM synths are also fun to play with. While they got a bad rep doing those horrible 80s bell like digital piano sounds, they're always a tweak away from sounding f'd up. Nemesis is really good IMO.
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- KVRian
- 730 posts since 13 Apr, 2002 from Terra Australis
Most of the old stuff isn't on youtube. A few of the most classic examples:
TVOD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdingIM2N8Q
Ricky’s hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCtJPSrqcIY
DAF:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNdkFomTCg
TVOD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdingIM2N8Q
Ricky’s hand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCtJPSrqcIY
DAF:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDNdkFomTCg
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
Depends on your definition of worth... They didn't invent Punk btw that was the Brits.jbuonacc wrote:are you f'ing kidding me? pretty much all music of any "worth" in the 20th century started in the US.Ridan wrote:Yes, that was about the only thing we did right in the music world.Robmobius wrote:That said the Americans were the kings of 80s Hardcore.
blues, jazz, big band, rock, punk, r&b, funk, metal, hip-hop, house, techno... though i'll have to say that Kraftwerk and some other acts played a hand in bringing the last three to life, and that many of these genres were certainly expanded upon by those overseas.
Hah… DK! Legends.Ridan wrote:Yes, that was about the only thing we did right in the music world.Robmobius wrote:That said the Americans were the kings of 80s Hardcore.
DK for life!
I agree that bands like Green Day and The Offspring are "pop-punk", but I'm not even sure if it would be right to even use the word punk. Alternative Pop?
Never heard of the term "synth punk" until this thread, but i like the idea. I think the Prodigy stuff is considered "Electropunk" though.
Anyone want to start an international synth punk band? I've got the guitar part covered. =)
Actually, that’s a much better classification ‘Alternative Pop’.
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- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
"Ramones [1976 album] is considered to have established the musical genre of punk rock, as well as popularizing it years afterward"Ridan wrote:There's still a debate on where punk originally came from
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Wonderful songs which leads to even more wonderful songs! For now, I liked a lot The Screamers and The Normal. But I have watched more of the first band which became from my favourites
I'm enjoying the performance of "The Screamers" a lot. Really love this band. Here another song I liked a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGRUwBNbmQc
I don't know about other 'punk' or 'synth punk' or 'rock punk' bands, but from the few I watched, it seems they are in general 'free' to use whatever they like, but the Drums mostly acoustic while the other instruments are synths or organs or guitars, but the singing and they way they sing is essential.
I'm enjoying the performance of "The Screamers" a lot. Really love this band. Here another song I liked a lot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGRUwBNbmQc
I don't know about other 'punk' or 'synth punk' or 'rock punk' bands, but from the few I watched, it seems they are in general 'free' to use whatever they like, but the Drums mostly acoustic while the other instruments are synths or organs or guitars, but the singing and they way they sing is essential.
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
+1 for Delgado & Görlspirit wrote:DAF
Alle Gegen Alle - Links den roten blitz, rechts den schwarzen stern
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
That's a negative.... The Sex Pistols did all that, as well as establishing the movement. They had an immense impact when they went over to the U.S.Numanoid wrote:"Ramones [1976 album] is considered to have established the musical genre of punk rock, as well as popularizing it years afterward"Ridan wrote:There's still a debate on where punk originally came from
On a personal note, I always saw them (the Ramones) as bad caricature or 'try hards'. Some of their music is so disgustingly nice and poppy...
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too.
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
No doubt that Sex Pistols helped break punk into the mainstream, but there is no denying that Ramones where there first. And don't forget that The Damned released New Rose before Anarchy in the UK, so they also helped getting consumers used to the soundRobmobius wrote:That's a negative.... The Sex Pistols did all that, as well as establishing the movement. They had an immense impact when they went over to the U.S.
Hardcore The Damned fans may even call Sex Pistols bandwagon jumpers, or Johnny Come Lately's
Ramones (April 23, 1976)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramones_%28album%29
New Rose (October 22, 1976)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Rose
Anarchy in the UK (November 26, 1976)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy_in_the_U.K
- KVRian
- 943 posts since 11 Dec, 2014 from one rocky mountain to another
The Ramones were about as punk as Blondie.
Just not as sexy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahGxiSV_LH0
Don't get me wrong though. I love both.
Just not as sexy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahGxiSV_LH0
Don't get me wrong though. I love both.
- KVRAF
- 40225 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Marc Bolan from T.Rex reckoned he invented Punk. Listen to some of his weird albums and you might think so too.
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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- 33159 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
The sleeve notes to Peter Hammill's "Nadir's Big Chance" refer to some tracks as 'punk songs.' 1975. More particularly, the sentiment of punk is there;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKoP19WHcFAI've been hanging around, waiting for my chance
to tell you what I think about the music
that's gone down
to which you madly danced - frankly,
you know that it stinks.
I'm gonna scream, gonna shout,
gonna play my guitar
until your body's rigid and you see stars.
Look at all the jerks in their tinsel glitter suits.
pansying around; look at all the nerks
in their leather platform boots,
making with the heavy sound...
I'm gonna stamp on the stardust
and scream till I'm ill -
if the guitar don't get ya, the drums will.
Now's my big break - let me up on the stage,
I'll show you what it's all about;
enough of the fake,
bang your feet in a rage,
tear down the walls and let us out!
We're more than mere morons, perpetually conned,
so come on everybody,
smash the system with the song.
Smash the system with the song!
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
- KVRAF
- 25852 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
How about some Throbbing Gristle, they had the volume, the lyrics, the attitude, but maybe not the speed of punk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8klW9trVTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8klW9trVTQ
- KVRAF
- 7745 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
Hee, first album I thought of in this debate, sure John Lydon praised it extensively sometime (apparently he's a massive VdGG fan...)whyterabbyt wrote:Peter Hammill's "Nadir's Big Chance"
Strange this one wasn't cited in any of the Bowie tributes...Look at all the jerks in their tinsel glitter suits.
pansying around; look at all the nerks
in their leather platform boots,
making with the heavy sound...
I'm gonna stamp on the stardust
and scream till I'm ill
- KVRAF
- 7745 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
Plenty of bands had the sound and attitude before '76, just look at obvious examples like MC5 or The Stooges, something like 'I Wanna Be Your Dog' couldn't be more punk.Numanoid wrote:How about some Throbbing Gristle, they had the volume, the lyrics, the attitude, but maybe not the speed of punk