ohmicide vs predatohm

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They were updated, this demo page
https://www.ohmforce.com/UseFreeSoftwar ... Id=1652483
shows the date (09-12-2015) for Ohmicide Win 32 demo.
Ohmicide is a decent 4 band distortion plugin.
Can you show us a similar or better 4 band distortion plugin?

Neon Breath wrote:Both, plugins that haven't been updated nor maintained for years.

I would stay away from both, there are better alternatives nowadays.

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I wouldn't call Ohmicide just decent, though.

It's not so great for subtle effects, but in my opinion, it's meant for dirty and over-the-top and excells there. Think NiN ultra wide distorted synth/guitar, for example.
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medienhexer wrote:I wouldn't call Ohmicide just decent, though.

It's not so great for subtle effects, but in my opinion, it's meant for dirty and over-the-top and excells there. Think NiN ultra wide distorted synth/guitar, for example.
Any examples?
They/He use(s) low dynamic, buzz saw guitar's (/sounds)..
--
1994 downward spiral album is outstanding, superb..classic art.
Stomps and amps ..imho...But the great part is songwriting/arrangement/playstyle and not the sound.

The early 90's alternative-scene is as important as the 60's rock music.
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ohmicide is a fantastic distortion plugin in terms of sound. does it all. but the GUI is unusable on modern screens. I hope they can re-release it with a more readable GUI. the predatohm seems more readable/usable but i remember the palette of distortions much more limited and not as good sounding as ohmicide.

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dune_rave wrote:They were updated, this demo page
https://www.ohmforce.com/UseFreeSoftwar ... Id=1652483
shows the date (09-12-2015) for Ohmicide Win 32 demo.
Ohmicide is a decent 4 band distortion plugin.
Can you show us a similar or better 4 band distortion plugin?
Sure. All multibands:

MMultibandDistortion
https://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins ... Distortion

Izotope Trash 2
https://www.izotope.com/trash2

FabFilter Saturn
http://www.fabfilter.com/products/satur ... on-plug-in

FXPansion Maul
https://www.fxpansion.com/products/maul/

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You could always run a loop through the presets, but I feel these videos also give you a good idea of Ohmicide's aeathetics:

http://youtu.be/q3uE5ZXWtQ4

http://youtu.be/xwtpa6RFZnQ

http://youtu.be/MxPN2_viUhg

I don't have an actual NiN example, not sure what he used, but you can extrapolate from these videos where it could have been used to great effect. :phones:
..off to play with my music toys - library music production.
http://www.FiveMinuteHippo.com

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Klinke1 wrote:
medienhexer wrote:I wouldn't call Ohmicide just decent, though.

It's not so great for subtle effects, but in my opinion, it's meant for dirty and over-the-top and excells there. Think NiN ultra wide distorted synth/guitar, for example.
Any examples?
They/He use(s) low dynamic, buzz saw guitar's (/sounds)..
--
1994 downward spiral album is outstanding, superb..classic art.
Stomps and amps ..imho...But the great part is songwriting/arrangement/playstyle and not the sound.

The early 90's alternative-scene is as important as the 60's rock music.

slightly offtopic,but relevant to your query.i don't think you could get that early NIN sound out of Ohmicide or Predatohm at all.the closest you'll get is probably a really old steppy waveshaper,like the one in the old Pluggo Runtime bundle ,or a waveshaper that lets you quantize your curves (add steps inbetween your shapes).alot of that sound came from a waveshaper in a program called "Hypersynth"on an ancient crapple OS.i had someone a few months back query me about the same sound.you could also try the Xfer 8bit Shaper
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Neon Breath wrote:
dune_rave wrote:They were updated, this demo page
https://www.ohmforce.com/UseFreeSoftwar ... Id=1652483
shows the date (09-12-2015) for Ohmicide Win 32 demo.
Ohmicide is a decent 4 band distortion plugin.
Can you show us a similar or better 4 band distortion plugin?
Sure. All multibands:

MMultibandDistortion
https://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins ... Distortion

Izotope Trash 2
https://www.izotope.com/trash2

FabFilter Saturn
http://www.fabfilter.com/products/satur ... on-plug-in

FXPansion Maul
https://www.fxpansion.com/products/maul/
I may try Trash later, but for me, Ohmicide is good enough.

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Neon Breath wrote:
dune_rave wrote:They were updated, this demo page
https://www.ohmforce.com/UseFreeSoftwar ... Id=1652483
shows the date (09-12-2015) for Ohmicide Win 32 demo.
Ohmicide is a decent 4 band distortion plugin.
Can you show us a similar or better 4 band distortion plugin?
Sure. All multibands:

MMultibandDistortion
https://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins ... Distortion

Izotope Trash 2
https://www.izotope.com/trash2

FabFilter Saturn
http://www.fabfilter.com/products/satur ... on-plug-in

FXPansion Maul
https://www.fxpansion.com/products/maul/
G-Sonique also has some cheap multiband distortion plug. Dubshox H8. It's quite funny with it's neuro knobs.

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Neon Breath wrote:
dune_rave wrote:They were updated, this demo page
https://www.ohmforce.com/UseFreeSoftwar ... Id=1652483
shows the date (09-12-2015) for Ohmicide Win 32 demo.
Ohmicide is a decent 4 band distortion plugin.
Can you show us a similar or better 4 band distortion plugin?
Sure. All multibands:

MMultibandDistortion
https://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins ... Distortion

Izotope Trash 2
https://www.izotope.com/trash2

FabFilter Saturn
http://www.fabfilter.com/products/satur ... on-plug-in

FXPansion Maul
https://www.fxpansion.com/products/maul/
And all AAX, unlike Omhmicide.
"What embecile composed this list :/"

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Ohmicide would be a great plugin if it didn't have that stupid damn interface, the empty spaces and tiny dials, they need an option to have a normal UI vS that nonsense
Duh

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If I had to choose between either, it would be Ohmicide all the way. I wouldn't even think twice about it.

If you want something to make your stuff sound more "analog" or warm then you might want to consider something less "in your face" because that's what Ohmicide is designed for.

I don't have a lot of experience with Predatohm, but I wasn't all the impressed with it compared to Ohmicide.
:borg:

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TIMT wrote:
Klinke1 wrote:
medienhexer wrote:I wouldn't call Ohmicide just decent, though.

It's not so great for subtle effects, but in my opinion, it's meant for dirty and over-the-top and excells there. Think NiN ultra wide distorted synth/guitar, for example.
Any examples?
They/He use(s) low dynamic, buzz saw guitar's (/sounds)..
--
1994 downward spiral album is outstanding, superb..classic art.
Stomps and amps ..imho...But the great part is songwriting/arrangement/playstyle and not the sound.

The early 90's alternative-scene is as important as the 60's rock music.

slightly offtopic,but relevant to your query.i don't think you could get that early NIN sound out of Ohmicide or Predatohm at all.the closest you'll get is probably a really old steppy waveshaper,like the one in the old Pluggo Runtime bundle ,or a waveshaper that lets you quantize your curves (add steps inbetween your shapes).alot of that sound came from a waveshaper in a program called "Hypersynth"on an ancient crapple OS.i had someone a few months back query me about the same sound.you could also try the Xfer 8bit Shaper
If you need to see/paint the waveshaper curve yourself, there's always the Waveshaper which comes free with Computer. Music: http://www.musicradar.com/computermusic ... uys-575381

But if you look at page 25 of the Ohmicide manual, there's a nice selection of distortion algorithms, most of which are waveshaping variations.
..off to play with my music toys - library music production.
http://www.FiveMinuteHippo.com

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medienhexer wrote:
TIMT wrote:
Klinke1 wrote:
medienhexer wrote:I wouldn't call Ohmicide just decent, though.

It's not so great for subtle effects, but in my opinion, it's meant for dirty and over-the-top and excells there. Think NiN ultra wide distorted synth/guitar, for example.
Any examples?
They/He use(s) low dynamic, buzz saw guitar's (/sounds)..
--
1994 downward spiral album is outstanding, superb..classic art.
Stomps and amps ..imho...But the great part is songwriting/arrangement/playstyle and not the sound.

The early 90's alternative-scene is as important as the 60's rock music.

slightly offtopic,but relevant to your query.i don't think you could get that early NIN sound out of Ohmicide or Predatohm at all.the closest you'll get is probably a really old steppy waveshaper,like the one in the old Pluggo Runtime bundle ,or a waveshaper that lets you quantize your curves (add steps inbetween your shapes).alot of that sound came from a waveshaper in a program called "Hypersynth"on an ancient crapple OS.i had someone a few months back query me about the same sound.you could also try the Xfer 8bit Shaper
But if you look at page 25 of the Ohmicide manual, there's a nice selection of distortion algorithms, most of which are waveshaping variations.

Read what i suggested.it's not the same thing
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TIMT wrote:
medienhexer wrote:
TIMT wrote:
Klinke1 wrote:
medienhexer wrote:I wouldn't call Ohmicide just decent, though.

It's not so great for subtle effects, but in my opinion, it's meant for dirty and over-the-top and excells there. Think NiN ultra wide distorted synth/guitar, for example.
Any examples?
They/He use(s) low dynamic, buzz saw guitar's (/sounds)..
--
1994 downward spiral album is outstanding, superb..classic art.
Stomps and amps ..imho...But the great part is songwriting/arrangement/playstyle and not the sound.

The early 90's alternative-scene is as important as the 60's rock music.

slightly offtopic,but relevant to your query.i don't think you could get that early NIN sound out of Ohmicide or Predatohm at all.the closest you'll get is probably a really old steppy waveshaper,like the one in the old Pluggo Runtime bundle ,or a waveshaper that lets you quantize your curves (add steps inbetween your shapes).alot of that sound came from a waveshaper in a program called "Hypersynth"on an ancient crapple OS.i had someone a few months back query me about the same sound.you could also try the Xfer 8bit Shaper
But if you look at page 25 of the Ohmicide manual, there's a nice selection of distortion algorithms, most of which are waveshaping variations.

Read what i suggested.it's not the same thing
I did read what you wrote. Sounded to me lke you were saying you needed a waveshaper instead of Ohmicide to achieve a NiN-like aesthetic. And I added the information that Ohmicide is very well equipped with waveshaping modes.

Then it seemed like you were saying there was only an outdated software which allowed you to do exactly what you think is required - a stepped wave shaping curve. And I provided an inexpensive current alternative which does exactly that. Didn't say your suggestion was wrong.

And since Trent is actually using Ohmforce software, it doesn't seem too far fetched to think that some of the sounds in the records might actually have been created with them. Even if that's not the case, I still think Ohmicide allows you to create sounds which resemble his a lot.

However, my point was that Ohmicide isn't my first choice for subtle processing but is great for outright destruction. I've said my part, the thread is yours.
..off to play with my music toys - library music production.
http://www.FiveMinuteHippo.com

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