Vst hosting and routing standalone app: alternative to Blue Cat Patchworks, Eareckon Bloxpander ?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 236 posts since 1 May, 2009 from Italy
Hello,
any other ideas beside these ?
I need to reproduce this routing:
http://www.unguitar.com/wp-content/uplo ... outing.gif
Basically there are two different analog inputs taking 4 different parallel processing paths, each with a different cascade of vsts.
Their outputs go to a main stereo out and split in parallel to a looper ( Mobius) which output goes to the main stereo out as well.
I've studied Blue Cat Audio Patchworks and Eareckon Bloxpander pretty extensively but before deciding before these two I'd like to know which other application might offer the same results.
Thank you for your advice,
Luca
any other ideas beside these ?
I need to reproduce this routing:
http://www.unguitar.com/wp-content/uplo ... outing.gif
Basically there are two different analog inputs taking 4 different parallel processing paths, each with a different cascade of vsts.
Their outputs go to a main stereo out and split in parallel to a looper ( Mobius) which output goes to the main stereo out as well.
I've studied Blue Cat Audio Patchworks and Eareckon Bloxpander pretty extensively but before deciding before these two I'd like to know which other application might offer the same results.
Thank you for your advice,
Luca
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 236 posts since 1 May, 2009 from Italy
by the way, before you get crazy trying to check the actual audio flow in the posted example, consider the screenshot I've taken was not intended to be readable so to reproduce it.
The position of the various processing elements don't allow to understand the signal flow and it is not important to me as it is the architecture that makes it possible.
The position of the various processing elements don't allow to understand the signal flow and it is not important to me as it is the architecture that makes it possible.
- KVRAF
- 35274 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Plogue Bidule is probably your best option. Maybe you could manage it in Metaplugin too but Bidule is vastly more capable and has its own processing and sequencing modules too.
- KVRAF
- 9576 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 236 posts since 1 May, 2009 from Italy
thank you for Usine and Bidule.
I checked them a few years ago and they were very interesting indeed.
I was looking for a less intricate solution. I think that an easy interface and lean environment is essential when its use is oriented to improv and instant composing or sound design.
I checked them a few years ago and they were very interesting indeed.
I was looking for a less intricate solution. I think that an easy interface and lean environment is essential when its use is oriented to improv and instant composing or sound design.
- KVRian
- 513 posts since 20 Dec, 2008
To me Bidule seems super-lean and easy to use as a plugin chainer. The default layout is almost blank aside from a mixer and an audio output (if prefered the default layout can be resaved without them). Simply right-click, select plugins, connect as desired, and you're done. There's nothing else there except what you need.unguitar wrote:thank you for Usine and Bidule.
I checked them a few years ago and they were very interesting indeed.
I was looking for a less intricate solution. I think that an easy interface and lean environment is essential when its use is oriented to improv and instant composing or sound design.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 236 posts since 1 May, 2009 from Italy
Yes, I know Bidule and Usine as they were the two of the three contenders with Audiomulch.
I chose the latter, it was ten years ago, circa.
Now, I'd prefer to move to a more essential application but I understand that the routing and control capabilities I need just can be found in a complex environment, so I'll just have to adapt myself to what's available between the same old three: Bidule, Usine and Audiomulch.
by the way: www.vstforx.de
was a good idea based on very lean environment and intuitive UI.
It's a pity it hasn't been developed further.
I chose the latter, it was ten years ago, circa.
Now, I'd prefer to move to a more essential application but I understand that the routing and control capabilities I need just can be found in a complex environment, so I'll just have to adapt myself to what's available between the same old three: Bidule, Usine and Audiomulch.
by the way: www.vstforx.de
was a good idea based on very lean environment and intuitive UI.
It's a pity it hasn't been developed further.
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- KVRist
- 110 posts since 7 Jan, 2013 from United States
Just out of curiosity have you ever checked into Cantabile?
The recent Version 3 update has beefed it up considerably. I do similar stuff in it, and it is pretty robust.
Just thought I would mention it as no one had yet.
The recent Version 3 update has beefed it up considerably. I do similar stuff in it, and it is pretty robust.
Just thought I would mention it as no one had yet.
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Toys: Peavey Solo, Crate GFX30, VOX AD30VT, Digitech RP500, Line 6 HD500X
Tools: '09 Epi' Dot Studio, '10 Epi' Les Paul Studio, '97 Fender Strat, 2015 PRS SE Standard 24, Martin OMC-18E.
Toys: Peavey Solo, Crate GFX30, VOX AD30VT, Digitech RP500, Line 6 HD500X
- KVRAF
- 35274 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
If you want something simpler then try Metaplugin.
- KVRian
- 513 posts since 20 Dec, 2008
Oh; Ididn't mean to suggest Bidule was your only option. I should have suggested Pedalboard2; which I'm a big fan of. Plus it's free!unguitar wrote:Yes, I know Bidule and Usine as they were the two of the three contenders with Audiomulch.
I chose the latter, it was ten years ago, circa.
Now, I'd prefer to move to a more essential application but I understand that the routing and control capabilities I need just can be found in a complex environment, so I'll just have to adapt myself to what's available between the same old three: Bidule, Usine and Audiomulch.
http://www.niallmoody.com/apps/pedalboard2
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- KVRAF
- 4460 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
And don´t forget MUX Modular, which offers a lot more than simple VST routing: http://www.mutools.com/mux-product.html
Dead cheap, great sound and great flexibility
Dead cheap, great sound and great flexibility
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 236 posts since 1 May, 2009 from Italy
Wow, what an interesting collection of tools I didn't know about: MUX, Pedalboard, Metaplugin...
Now, a very important thing for me to consider is how reliable are their developers.
I've had troubles in the past with companies who've dropped developement/updates/assistance so it is important for me to check about this as well, before starting to invest my time into a new application that, in my case, will be the real core of my music making.
Now, a very important thing for me to consider is how reliable are their developers.
I've had troubles in the past with companies who've dropped developement/updates/assistance so it is important for me to check about this as well, before starting to invest my time into a new application that, in my case, will be the real core of my music making.
- KVRian
- 513 posts since 20 Dec, 2008
If you're referring to Audiomulch I feel your pain. Such a great app; so sadunguitar wrote:Wow, what an interesting collection of tools I didn't know about: MUX, Pedalboard, Metaplugin...
Now, a very important thing for me to consider is how reliable are their developers.
I've had troubles in the past with companies who've dropped developement/updates/assistance so it is important for me to check about this as well, before starting to invest my time into a new application that, in my case, will be the real core of my music making.
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- KVRAF
- 4460 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
Don´t know about the others, but Jo, the guy behind MuTools, is the most responsible and friendliest developer I ever came across with...bugfixes often appear after 1-2 days, always open minded to user wishes, very user friendly prices... if there is a developer worth to be supported, he would be my number one for sureunguitar wrote:Wow, what an interesting collection of tools I didn't know about: MUX, Pedalboard, Metaplugin...
Now, a very important thing for me to consider is how reliable are their developers.
I've had troubles in the past with companies who've dropped developement/updates/assistance so it is important for me to check about this as well, before starting to invest my time into a new application that, in my case, will be the real core of my music making.
- KVRAF
- 35274 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Just got an update on Mac (compatibility stuff) so there is some life yet; still hoping for a 64 bit version with multicore processing.dformd wrote:If you're referring to Audiomulch I feel your pain. Such a great app; so sadunguitar wrote:Wow, what an interesting collection of tools I didn't know about: MUX, Pedalboard, Metaplugin...
Now, a very important thing for me to consider is how reliable are their developers.
I've had troubles in the past with companies who've dropped developement/updates/assistance so it is important for me to check about this as well, before starting to invest my time into a new application that, in my case, will be the real core of my music making.