Official Arturia VCollection5 thread
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11483 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Hey guys, I posted a Wurlitzer virtual instrument/sampleset shoot-out on Gearslutz that includes Wurli-V and 4 other Wurli's I have. Somewhat unrelated to the shoot-out, I have to retract my initial statements on Wurli-V about not thinking it was realistic. It took some experimenting, but I was able to get pretty good results with the Dark Wurli harmonic setting. That means I'll have to spend more time with the Rhodes to see if I can do the same.
Anyway, Wurli shoot-out link here:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear-sh ... t-out.html
That post is really just about listening to the different versions playing the same MIDI file/riffs to compare how the various instruments sound next to each other. Not trying to make a case for one over another or anything like that.
Anyway, Wurli shoot-out link here:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear-sh ... t-out.html
That post is really just about listening to the different versions playing the same MIDI file/riffs to compare how the various instruments sound next to each other. Not trying to make a case for one over another or anything like that.
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- KVRAF
- 2932 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Well I am not sure if you are using the ideal dynamics for each performance or if you are re-using the midi performance from the the HollowSun but I have to say your sample library for HollowSun sounds great to my ears.
I would think that the bite and bark might be different with each of the five instruments depending upon the dynamics of the performance
How do you perform the test tracks.... same midi file for each? If so which instrument did you play first and did you use that midi file for all of them? or did you play each separately to taste?
At any rate your Tubilitzer sound alive to me and that is a good thing.
Thanks for sharing... very cool. - Scotty
I would think that the bite and bark might be different with each of the five instruments depending upon the dynamics of the performance
How do you perform the test tracks.... same midi file for each? If so which instrument did you play first and did you use that midi file for all of them? or did you play each separately to taste?
At any rate your Tubilitzer sound alive to me and that is a good thing.
Thanks for sharing... very cool. - Scotty
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:Hey guys, I posted a Wurlitzer virtual instrument/sampleset shoot-out on Gearslutz that includes Wurli-V and 4 other Wurli's I have. Somewhat unrelated to the shoot-out, I have to retract my initial statements on Wurli-V about not thinking it was realistic. It took some experimenting, but I was able to get pretty good results with the Dark Wurli harmonic setting. That means I'll have to spend more time with the Rhodes to see if I can do the same.
Anyway, Wurli shoot-out link here:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/gear-sh ... t-out.html
That post is really just about listening to the different versions playing the same MIDI file/riffs to compare how the various instruments sound next to each other. Not trying to make a case for one over another or anything like that.
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- KVRist
- 163 posts since 10 Aug, 2006
Part two of Glenn Darcy's V Synclavier tutorial is even more eye-opening.
It's not going to make me entirely give up my FS1R or FM8 or Razor, but it's definitely in that circle of friends! I really love partial editing in an FM context, it's like playing with organ drawbars on steroids.
I'm also astonished at how good, warm and characteristically noisy the Stage 73 model is; that's one of the most expressive keyboard instruments out there, and the ultimate challenge, really, after the piano, to get right, and Arturia's done a phenomenal job with it. Lost a lot of sleep on a work night because of this, damn yer eyes, Arturia!
For those of you who've lost the ability to have fun just messing around musically with such infinite sound resources, here's a gift that will inspire you. OCD coders and engineer types need not apply:
https://youtu.be/5YSU-oJN0ZU
It's not going to make me entirely give up my FS1R or FM8 or Razor, but it's definitely in that circle of friends! I really love partial editing in an FM context, it's like playing with organ drawbars on steroids.
I'm also astonished at how good, warm and characteristically noisy the Stage 73 model is; that's one of the most expressive keyboard instruments out there, and the ultimate challenge, really, after the piano, to get right, and Arturia's done a phenomenal job with it. Lost a lot of sleep on a work night because of this, damn yer eyes, Arturia!
For those of you who've lost the ability to have fun just messing around musically with such infinite sound resources, here's a gift that will inspire you. OCD coders and engineer types need not apply:
https://youtu.be/5YSU-oJN0ZU
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- KVRAF
- 7711 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
Did you mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYysymzXz4realtrance wrote:Part two of Glenn Darcy's V Synclavier tutorial is even more eye-opening.
https://youtu.be/5YSU-oJN0ZU
- KVRAF
- 35249 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Thanks, was trying to find the second part, Youtube is more interested in showing me unwanted 'recommendations' these days than actual related videos.
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- KVRist
- 163 posts since 10 Aug, 2006
Yes, sorry, didn't link that as I thought YT would have it immediately accessible in the queue after part one. Youtube's become quite a mess these days, like Google search.Examigan wrote:Did you mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYysymzXz4realtrance wrote:Part two of Glenn Darcy's V Synclavier tutorial is even more eye-opening.
https://youtu.be/5YSU-oJN0ZU
You can see from my post count I'm not online much.
- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
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- KVRAF
- 7711 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA
realtrance wrote:Yes, sorry, didn't link that as I thought YT would have it immediately accessible in the queue after part one. Youtube's become quite a mess these days, like Google search.Examigan wrote:Did you mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYysymzXz4realtrance wrote:Part two of Glenn Darcy's V Synclavier tutorial is even more eye-opening.
https://youtu.be/5YSU-oJN0ZU
You can see from my post count I'm not online much.
- KVRAF
- 35249 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
It's terrible, I really hate how they clutter up my searches with useless recommendations that I can't get rid of easily based on crap I may have just glanced at briefly or some dumb algorithm.realtrance wrote:Yes, sorry, didn't link that as I thought YT would have it immediately accessible in the queue after part one. Youtube's become quite a mess these days, like Google search.Examigan wrote:Did you mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYysymzXz4realtrance wrote:Part two of Glenn Darcy's V Synclavier tutorial is even more eye-opening.
https://youtu.be/5YSU-oJN0ZU
You can see from my post count I'm not online much.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11483 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Hey Scotty, the test files are all the same MIDI file. No tweaks at all to velocities. I'm sure I could have made each sound a bit better by tweaking the velocities to highlight the strength of each, but that would have been a lot of work.Scotty wrote:Well I am not sure if you are using the ideal dynamics for each performance or if you are re-using the midi performance from the the HollowSun but I have to say your sample library for HollowSun sounds great to my ears.
I would think that the bite and bark might be different with each of the five instruments depending upon the dynamics of the performance
How do you perform the test tracks.... same midi file for each? If so which instrument did you play first and did you use that midi file for all of them? or did you play each separately to taste?
At any rate your Tubilitzer sound alive to me and that is a good thing.
Thanks for sharing... very cool. - Scotty
I'm glad you like Tubelitzer, I honestly thought it sounded very good in the Ray Charles What'd I Say riff, but doesn't have the classic Wurli bite of a 200 on some of the other clips. It's a different design than the classic Wurli 200, so I just put it in for fun; wasn't trying to make it sound better or boost sales or anything. I almost didn't include it because it was so different, but figured why not...
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- KVRAF
- 2932 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
It was tops in the Ray Charles bit to my ears and it and the NI Scarbee version sounded convincing in the Supertramp esque passages as well. It shows me that likely the engineer would have to EQ the sound to bring out the characteristics of bark and bite to taste for each section in a song but I think it is the dynamic response that makes the greatest overall difference. A couple of the emulations just don't seem very responsive to the touch as I hear them.
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:Hey Scotty, the test files are all the same MIDI file. No tweaks at all to velocities. I'm sure I could have made each sound a bit better by tweaking the velocities to highlight the strength of each, but that would have been a lot of work.Scotty wrote:Well I am not sure if you are using the ideal dynamics for each performance or if you are re-using the midi performance from the the HollowSun but I have to say your sample library for HollowSun sounds great to my ears.
I would think that the bite and bark might be different with each of the five instruments depending upon the dynamics of the performance
How do you perform the test tracks.... same midi file for each? If so which instrument did you play first and did you use that midi file for all of them? or did you play each separately to taste?
At any rate your Tubilitzer sound alive to me and that is a good thing.
Thanks for sharing... very cool. - Scotty
I'm glad you like Tubelitzer, I honestly thought it sounded very good in the Ray Charles What'd I Say riff, but doesn't have the classic Wurli bite of a 200 on some of the other clips. It's a different design than the classic Wurli 200, so I just put it in for fun; wasn't trying to make it sound better or boost sales or anything. I almost didn't include it because it was so different, but figured why not...
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- KVRAF
- 8447 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
so will it be possible to select a DESTINATION folder to install your products or will you force always to use C:?
DAW FL Studio Audio Interface Focusrite Scarlett 1st Gen 2i2 CPU Intel i7-7700K 4.20 GHz, RAM 32 GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @2400MHz Corsair Vengeance. MB Asus Prime Z270-K, GPU Gainward 1070 GTX GS 8GB NT Be Quiet DP 550W OS Win10 64Bit
- KVRAF
- 11093 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal
If you mean the resources (the bitmaps, presets and so on) they have to be installed inside Program Data, which is a reserved folder residing on the OS hard-drive. But there are workarounds to move these to other locations after installation replacing the original location with symbolic links. Instructions have been posted earlier in this thread. Here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/co ... -or-linux/Caine123 wrote:so will it be possible to select a DESTINATION folder to install your products or will you force always to use C:?
Fernando (FMR)
- KVRAF
- 4870 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
I guess we all agree that Arturia has made a great uppgrade..
But can´t stop wondering why Arturia has made the installing process in the way that you can´t set
the download path. That concerns all Windows OS. How strange is that: you can´t define where you install your stuff.
The V Collection 5 installer includes option for "a tailor made" installing, but this means just which instruments you want to install, not the folder. Before I believed that you can set the path when installing individual instruments, but when you install the bundle, although you choose spesific instruments, the stubbern Arturia installer installs all to the Steinberg vst defaul folder.
Have you found any way (when installing the bundle) to choose yourself where you want it to be in your computer?
Why on earth will Atruria make such a splendid product installing this difficult?
But can´t stop wondering why Arturia has made the installing process in the way that you can´t set
the download path. That concerns all Windows OS. How strange is that: you can´t define where you install your stuff.
The V Collection 5 installer includes option for "a tailor made" installing, but this means just which instruments you want to install, not the folder. Before I believed that you can set the path when installing individual instruments, but when you install the bundle, although you choose spesific instruments, the stubbern Arturia installer installs all to the Steinberg vst defaul folder.
Have you found any way (when installing the bundle) to choose yourself where you want it to be in your computer?
Why on earth will Atruria make such a splendid product installing this difficult?
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