Allomerus - The Pit and the Pendulum - Update Mix 4
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- KVRian
- 645 posts since 4 Nov, 2013 from Vancouver, Canada
Great song! And a neat classic prog rock vibe with your twist on it, I think. In a few places I found myself reminded of some of the tracks from Pink Floyd's The Wall (and I really like that album).
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- KVRian
- 950 posts since 30 Nov, 2004
I like it! Original but still very much that Allomerus style
- KVRAF
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- 3197 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
Thanks Tim. I'll have another listen...seismic1 wrote:I just had a listen to version 2. The reverb on the tron gives it a slightly more sinister vibe which I think sounds more appropriate. I don't really hear much difference in the overall volume. Maybe in a couple of places.
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- KVRAF
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- 3197 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
Thanks David. Really wasn't looking to a Pink Floyd influence on this but appreciate your slant on it... 'The Wall' is indeed a fabulous album.davidstiles wrote:Great song! And a neat classic prog rock vibe with your twist on it, I think. In a few places I found myself reminded of some of the tracks from Pink Floyd's The Wall (and I really like that album).
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- 3197 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
Thanks Jesse. I am enjoying your forays into gaming music...Jesse Gorter wrote:I like it! Original but still very much that Allomerus style
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- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
excellent production, John and Co. it had your trademark variety of sounds with
strange lyrics. much enjoyed
strange lyrics. much enjoyed
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- KVRAF
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- 3197 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
Hi Layzer. Glad you enjoyed it. The lyrics and title are quotes from the great Edgar Alan Poe.layzer wrote:excellent production, John and Co. it had your trademark variety of sounds with
strange lyrics. much enjoyed
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- 3197 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
New mix. Sounds louder to me. The original was quieter as I was trying to avoid peak distortion. So I searched for the offending peaks and lowered them a bit in the mix and added a limiter to the output.
https://soundcloud.com/a11omerus/the-pi ... pendulum-3
https://soundcloud.com/a11omerus/the-pi ... pendulum-3
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- KVRAF
- 11499 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
This one does sound a little louder overall. The vocals also seem to louder relative to the instruments, which works better I think. Job done.
Looking at the Soundcloud waveforms of the three versions, nothing regarding the relative volumes of the different versions may be deduced from the "amplitudes" represented in those waveforms. It's something I've noticed before. I've uploaded tracks that were deliberately recorded/mixed/mastered to produce a "quiet" piece of music, but the SC wave would lead one to believe that the volume is equal to something previously uploaded of a much higher volume. Trust your ears.
Good work
Looking at the Soundcloud waveforms of the three versions, nothing regarding the relative volumes of the different versions may be deduced from the "amplitudes" represented in those waveforms. It's something I've noticed before. I've uploaded tracks that were deliberately recorded/mixed/mastered to produce a "quiet" piece of music, but the SC wave would lead one to believe that the volume is equal to something previously uploaded of a much higher volume. Trust your ears.
Good work
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- KVRian
- 616 posts since 8 May, 2012 from Sydney, Australia
Really a very cool track. I really like the style. It sounds very much like you, as you always do. My main problems are with the production. I find the drums to be rather distracting. It's like they are in super wide stereo and the rest is centred. I'd like to hear the guitars double tracked (they don't sound like they are) as I think they get a little lost under the vocals. I don't think rock or metal needs perfect production. I listen to some with horrible production, but these things stand out to me here.
As for the volume. I think it's a little low, but that's up to you. We can always turn it up.
As for the volume. I think it's a little low, but that's up to you. We can always turn it up.
- KVRAF
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- 3197 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
Thanks for your listens and thoughts. I have a new mix with the guitar a bit louder and altered the stereo placement of the drums (and a few other things too).
Cheers,
John
https://soundcloud.com/a11omerus/the-pi ... pendulum-4
Cheers,
John
https://soundcloud.com/a11omerus/the-pi ... pendulum-4
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- KVRian
- 616 posts since 8 May, 2012 from Sydney, Australia
I think it sounds a bit better. The drums have improved, but I listened a few times and I think the biggest problem with the drums is that the kick is too wide. Personally, I would centre it. The vocal balance is much better.
I had a listen to your Bandcamp album and the drums don't sound like they do here. They sound much more a part of the music. In the end though, what do you think of the production? If you are happy with it, be happy with it and let it go. I just released an album on Bandcamp myself and I just went with my gut. There are probably tons of issues with the production, but I like the way it sounds. Just keep working at it until you think it sounds good, then maybe look back at it as a reference for your next track.
I had a listen to your Bandcamp album and the drums don't sound like they do here. They sound much more a part of the music. In the end though, what do you think of the production? If you are happy with it, be happy with it and let it go. I just released an album on Bandcamp myself and I just went with my gut. There are probably tons of issues with the production, but I like the way it sounds. Just keep working at it until you think it sounds good, then maybe look back at it as a reference for your next track.
- KVRAF
- 11499 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK
I just checked out the latest mix. It's noticeably louder, when compared to the original, helping to make the song sound "fuller". The drums are quite wide, which is apparent when sat 30 inches from my monitors, but sound much better when sat in the sofa listening on the main system 5 yards from the speakers.
Good work
Good work
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- 3197 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
Thanks Shangsean. When I listen to the drums on their own in my DAW (logic) the kick is centred but there seems to be another low drum that is occasionally wide. The drums are supplied as is in stereo as Paul uses an electronic kit. I guess I could narrow the spread somehow, but I think I will leave it as it is. In the meantime I'll get Paul to have a listen to the stereo spread on his kit.Shangsean wrote:I think it sounds a bit better. The drums have improved, but I listened a few times and I think the biggest problem with the drums is that the kick is too wide. Personally, I would centre it. The vocal balance is much better.
I had a listen to your Bandcamp album and the drums don't sound like they do here. They sound much more a part of the music. In the end though, what do you think of the production? If you are happy with it, be happy with it and let it go. I just released an album on Bandcamp myself and I just went with my gut. There are probably tons of issues with the production, but I like the way it sounds. Just keep working at it until you think it sounds good, then maybe look back at it as a reference for your next track.
Thanks for your comments and suggestions, I really appreciate your detailed listen and thoughts. All the best.
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- 3197 posts since 28 Aug, 2012 from Melbourne, Australia
Thanks Tim. Please see my response above...seismic1 wrote:I just checked out the latest mix. It's noticeably louder, when compared to the original, helping to make the song sound "fuller". The drums are quite wide, which is apparent when sat 30 inches from my monitors, but sound much better when sat in the sofa listening on the main system 5 yards from the speakers.
Good work
Appreciate your listen and thoughtful comments.
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