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crystalmsc · Post by **crystalmsc** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:05 am

Diversion is the most played synth to me that for the first time I didn't miss my JD-990 anymore. It just sounds great and so playable for my type of music, everything just feels right.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:26 am

recursive one wrote:Serum is an "industry standard" and it has lots of features that can potentially interest me, like audio import, advanced wavefrom control, cross-oscillator FM, it has nice clear GUI, but something about its sound puts me off - too clean, to precise maybe - but maybe it's just because I still haven't found my own way to program it to my liking. I have the demo installed for about a year, load it maybe once or twice a week but still not sure if I can eventually warm up to this synth.

Diversion is kinda similar synth (at least it has all the above, maybe in different implementation), but I find it more musical sounding, despite it also sounds in that clean digital way. I have a license for it for a few months and generally I like it, however there is still much left to explore about it. But basically it seems to be a good alternative to Serum and I wonder why it doesn't have a half of Serum's popularity.

Tl;dr/ if you have both Diversion and Serum which one do you prefer? What Serum can do what DIversion can't or where does it outdo Diversion?

Too clean? Switch to the German or French filters. Diversion is awesome though. Get Serum anyway.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:30 am

Or distortion

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:31 am

Suddenly popped to my mind that D-Pole from Waldorf is pretty nasty.

loachm · Post by **loachm** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:42 pm

recursive one wrote:Serum is an "industry standard"

..is it?

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:31 pm

loachm wrote:
recursive one wrote:Serum is an "industry standard"

..is it?

Musicradar number 2 synth

Funny that synthmaster is number 1 but afaik it's not considered as an "industry standard"

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:32 am

No comments?

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:41 am

There is a big list of fine synths really and what one prefers is subjective.

I liked Serum the second time I demoed. It is a fine synth and for someone, it might be non replaceable by other synths. However, for me I have Dune 2 which cover what I want from Serum and I prefer it more than Serum or Icarus. But for the OP, it might be a different matter. His music is different than mine, so he is the only one can know exactly what he needs.

Diversion is different IMO. Very different. The nearest I have that capable of such detailed pluck sounds is ACE from u-he. I'm not sure about the bass/leads/pads similarity because in Diversion the pluck sounds what amazed me more than anything else.

Synthmaster is a wonderful synth, but I use it less than Dune 2 (and the holy three, Diva, ACE and Bazille) which are the most I'm using these days.

I don't know, I think it depends more on how we take advantage of the synths we have and how clever we are in using our senses and mind to decide which thing can fit us best from sound to arrangement to ...etc.

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:04 pm

Are industry standards intented to create standard, industrial music, or both ?

Just joking, of course...

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:07 pm

Well, actually now I think that I may need Icarus, it does most things I wanted from Serum and sounds more pleasing to me.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:05 pm

recursive one wrote:sounds more pleasing to me.

We have found the winner

Just don't buy second hand that you can get rid of it if you don't need it anymore.

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:05 pm

Lejurai wrote:
recursive one wrote:sounds more pleasing to me.
We have found the winner Just don't buy second hand that you can get rid of it if you don't need it anymore.

I'd gladly "buy Serum second hand", if the price was right. I'm completely smitten with it, and can not foresee a need or desire to be rid of it, should I acquire it, so NFR is a non-issue. I wish I'd been in on the beta team for it.

I've been loading my wavetables, and "noises" into the demo, and it suits my needs perfectly, and I (personally) prefer it's sound, workflow, and aesthetic to Icarus, though the latter sounds 'fine', it's just not my "fine".

Kicking myself, that I missed the sale on Diversion a few months back. I'll definitely pick it up next time.

Lejurai · Post by **Lejurai** » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:20 pm

Shabdahbriah wrote:I'd gladly "buy Serum second hand", if the price was right.

Yea sure, if the price was right.. Around 60€ or something

Shabdahbriah wrote:Kicking myself, that I missed the sale on Diversion a few months back. I'll definitely pick it up next time.

IMO sches has sales quite often (at least few times a year) so I'm quite positive you'll get yourself a copy soon. Awesome synth

Do I need Serum if I have Diversion?