Tone2 will release Icarus - 3D WaveTable Synthesizer

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jk-cream2 wrote:The installer and vst software deletes pirate keys. Behind your back.
Wrong thread, here is the right one

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 4&t=465806
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jk-cream2 wrote:The installer and vst software deletes pirate keys. Behind your back.
Interesting. I'm curious as to how you discovered this – I trust you found it out for yourself and aren't just reporting hearsay.

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Gamma-UT wrote:
jk-cream2 wrote:The installer and vst software deletes pirate keys. Behind your back.
Interesting. I'm curious as to how you discovered this – I trust you found it out for yourself and aren't just reporting hearsay.
It is known since a long time and discussed at KVR countless times in the past (+ confirmed by the developer) that Tone2 installers got a list of known pirated keyfiles included and deletes those if it finds them at your system.

As long as you do not use pirated keyfiles you should not find any problems. I got al of their plugins and never had such problem as all key files i used were legal.

Of course the crackers are not happy about this but who really cares about that, except those who want to use cracked version of Tone2 products?
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I've got 2 (or 3 if you include warmverb) legal Tone2 products. Electra and Nemesis. Nemesis I found a bit limited .
I got them on a special at bestservice.de. I might get Rayblaster and Icarus if they go on offer.

Somehow the vst knew that the key I had for icarus was illegal. How? Does it secretly update itself?

If I went into your computer and deleted a file 'I didn't like' then how would you feel? If Marcus could see his profits being unrealized and people using his software for free. Then he must feel angry.

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jk-cream2 wrote:I've got 2 (or 3 if you include warmverb) legal Tone2 products. Electra and Nemesis. Nemesis I found a bit limited .
I got them on a special at bestservice.de. I might get Rayblaster and Icarus if they go on offer.

Somehow the vst knew that the key I had for icarus was illegal. How? Does it secretly update itself?

If I went into your computer and deleted a file 'I didn't like' then how would you feel? If Marcus could see his profits being unrealized and people using his software for free. Then he must feel angry.
So did you use a legal Icarus key or not? If you had an illegal key why do you complain here then?
It would be kind of stupid then to post that in public forum where also the developer has a look from time to time.
In the case of owning at least one or more illegal keys It also does not matter if you got other legal Tone2 keys.
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Really what I'm trying to say is, to everyone who is thinking of trying this synth, is to use a legal key. Sorry to derail this thread, but until one sees the reported behaviour for oneself, then the idea that the software deletes files as being preposterous can no longer be seen as an urban myth, by me anyway.

Let's make some (legal) noise! I liked ting/ting glass samples you posted.

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jk-cream2 wrote:Really what I'm trying to say is, to everyone who is thinking of trying this synth, is to use a legal key. Sorry to derail this thread, but until one sees the reported behaviour for oneself, then the idea that the software deletes files as being preposterous can no longer be seen as an urban myth, by me anyway.

Let's make some (legal) noise! I liked ting/ting glass samples you posted.
Well to try the synth demo you do not need a key at all. A key is only necessary to have a full version without any limitations.
To advice others using illegal keys or using them yourself should be also against KVR rules.
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Gamma-UT wrote:
jk-cream2 wrote:The installer and vst software deletes pirate keys. Behind your back.
Interesting. I'm curious as to how you discovered this – I trust you found it out for yourself and aren't just reporting hearsay.
jk-cream2 wrote: Somehow the vst knew that the key I had for icarus was illegal.
The moment when an elegant attempt to troll meets reality :D
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recursive one wrote: The moment when an elegant attempt to troll meets reality :D
We could also say that the software seemed to work as intended...
Congratulations to Markus. :clown: :D
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'To advice others using illegal keys or using them yourself should be also against KVR rules.'

That's interesting.

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jk-cream2 wrote:'To advice others using illegal keys or using them yourself should be also against KVR rules.'

That's interesting.
As long as you post about it here, it's like i mentioned.
Your replies here somehow give the impression that everything you did is right and that others seem to need your "advice" to not use a cracked key as you found it will not work anyway.

Well, staying away from illegal keys and cracks is a good advice for sure. :tu:
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Today Markus added a comment concerning compatibility with OSX 10.12 Sierra:
http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?topic=2423.0

FWIW i am not using a Mac myself so i could not comment on this.
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Well, while everybody's bitching about key files and copy protection, I'm 150 patches into programming this thing and still haven't even scratched the surface. For me, this has been the easiest synth to program really great sounding stuff out of everything I own. Am I surprised to be saying that? Yes, very surprised. I didn't find Electra 2 all that easy to get great sounds out of and Rayblaster is proving to be a real challenge but I am making progress.

Icarus has truly surprised me in sound, functionality and ease of programming.

Who'd a thunk it?

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recursive one wrote:The moment when an elegant attempt to troll meets reality :D
I thought it was the standard Tone2 "I read somewhere the installer deletes all your files" troll. I confess I was surprised it wasn't quite like that.

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jk-cream2 wrote:If I went into your computer and deleted a file 'I didn't like' then how would you feel?
Here's a thought: if software is only licensed rather than owned - is a file that's part of that software 'yours'?

I don't know the answer to that. But I agree that software that seeks out files to delete can be a recipe for disaster and probably isn't worth the risk from the PoV of the developer.

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