Bitwig

~Pd~ · Post by **~Pd~** » Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:35 pm

Hi, I saw the U-he cross promotion and decided to try the Bitwig demo. Sadly, the sampler doesn't appear to have either loop crossfade or snap to zero crossing, features that are pretty essential to me as I like to mess with loop points on the fly - am I right about this or are these features hidden in a pref panel somewhere?

If it's not available at present, are there plans to add it soon?

gwok · Post by **gwok** » Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:05 pm

This would be really useful.

Kung VU · Post by **Kung VU** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:38 pm

I heard a lot of people, myself included, were asking for this and i think at some point they will put some work into the sampler. But my feeling is that in the meantime other things have priority.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:06 pm

Yeah sampler is kinda hurting right now fortunately. I think it's fine they are focusing on other things at the moment, but after 1.2 I really hope sampler gets some much needed improvements. There are certain things that we've come to expect from samplers. Like crossfade for the loop so looping doesn't sound terrible. Or a playhead marker to indicate the playback position of the sample. And I wish there were visual indications of where the start and loop points were after modifying them with the sample start and loop start/length knobs.

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:28 pm

Sampler already got a little love in the 1.2 Beta. A new gain knob and a "steal release" knob for the amplitude envelope that can reduce popping that occurs when voices get cut off. Maybe there's a chance for some extra stuff before the release, or if not, hopefully right after. I also think that crossfade loop is pretty basic so hopefully it's not too far away.

toby · Post by **toby** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:35 pm

Ogopogo wrote:Sampler already got a little love in the 1.2 Beta.

I've also noticed sample start time can now be a mod destination which is a pretty cool addition.

codec17 · Post by **codec17** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:47 pm

toby wrote:
Ogopogo wrote:Sampler already got a little love in the 1.2 Beta.
I've also noticed sample start time can now be a mod destination which is a pretty cool addition.

Wasnt that already there? I only got 1.1

toby · Post by **toby** » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:04 pm

codec17 wrote:
toby wrote:
Ogopogo wrote:Sampler already got a little love in the 1.2 Beta.
I've also noticed sample start time can now be a mod destination which is a pretty cool addition.
Wasnt that already there? I only got 1.1

No the sample start / loop times were not able to be mod destinations in previous versions.

Just trying it though it looks like Timbre and pressure do not do anything. I'll have to investigate that further.

troxx · Post by **troxx** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:58 pm

Anyone heard if Sampler is being worked on anytime soon?

Trying to loop sample material is painful, no cross fading option and trying to zoom in to locate zero crossing ain't plain sailing either, along with the option to snap to zero crossing, I think the ability to left click & drag over an area of the waveform to zoom in stages, would make it a lot more user friendly, instead of clicking and dragging the slider at the bottom, cos once you zoom right in, it's a bit of a pain scrolling to the loop points.

_TIP_ · Post by **_TIP_** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:40 pm

Also, native SFZ support is pretty standard for a sampler those days...

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:02 am

I'm also eagerly awaiting loop fades. And still bewildered that it wasn't there originally. That should have come before being able to load multiple samples imho!

Apart from that I'd live to see repitching independent of time and being able to stretch without changing pitch (two sides of the same coin).

Tearing Riots · Post by **Tearing Riots** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:42 pm

troxx wrote:Anyone heard if Sampler is being worked on anytime soon?

Trying to loop sample material is painful, no cross fading option and trying to zoom in to locate zero crossing ain't plain sailing either, along with the option to snap to zero crossing, I think the ability to left click & drag over an area of the waveform to zoom in stages, would make it a lot more user friendly, instead of clicking and dragging the slider at the bottom, cos once you zoom right in, it's a bit of a pain scrolling to the loop points.

You can zoom with middle mouse button +drag up/down, not enough to spot zero crossings though because of no vertical zoom.
But zero crossings are not really the issue, the loop has fades on the end and beginning already. I don´t get any clicks, do you?

Tearing Riots · Post by **Tearing Riots** » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:03 pm

toby wrote: Just trying it though it looks like Timbre and pressure do not do anything. I'll have to investigate that further.

Those come too late for the sample start (i´d consider this a bug), once the sample is running this parameter doesn´t do anything. Loop start/length works with timbre/pressure though

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Sampler crossfade or snap to zero crossing?