Bazille Idioteque Recreation
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 17 Oct, 2016
Hello friends,
I try/tried to recreate the synth patch of the famous chords from Readiohead's Idioteque, which they sampled from this Paul Lansky piece.
https://youtu.be/4ZDxMb4nago?t=42
Does any of you Bazille Experts have some suggestions or tips. Sounds like Fm to me, but the track is from 1973. Did Fm in this style already exist in 1973? Would ringmodulation be a better option? Would be great if you would share your knowledge.
I try/tried to recreate the synth patch of the famous chords from Readiohead's Idioteque, which they sampled from this Paul Lansky piece.
https://youtu.be/4ZDxMb4nago?t=42
Does any of you Bazille Experts have some suggestions or tips. Sounds like Fm to me, but the track is from 1973. Did Fm in this style already exist in 1973? Would ringmodulation be a better option? Would be great if you would share your knowledge.
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moscom_electronics moscom_electronics https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=269081
- KVRist
- 243 posts since 21 Nov, 2011 from France
Yep it is FM, it had been developped a little earlier by Chowning.
See here : http://paul.mycpanel.princeton.edu/radiohead.ml.html
See here : http://paul.mycpanel.princeton.edu/radiohead.ml.html
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 17 Oct, 2016
Very interesting. Thanks for the link!
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moscom_electronics moscom_electronics https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=269081
- KVRist
- 243 posts since 21 Nov, 2011 from France
The other interesting part is the harmonic basis that comes the Tristan chord. That probably makes for the inharmonicity of the sequence
- KVRAF
- 3060 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany
The Lansky piece was made with mix/cmix or predecessor.
http://www.musicainformatica.org/topics/cmix.php
Sounds like simple FM (one sin modulator and one sin carrier).
So, the difficult part is to find the right notes.
L and R channel seem to be completely different.
http://www.musicainformatica.org/topics/cmix.php
Sounds like simple FM (one sin modulator and one sin carrier).
So, the difficult part is to find the right notes.
L and R channel seem to be completely different.
Last edited by Chris-S on Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- KVRian
- 1297 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from Findlay OH USA
Which survives and flourishes as RTcmix :Chris-S wrote:The Lansky piece was made with mix/cmix.
http://www.musicainformatica.org/topics/cmix.php
http://rtcmix.org/
Best,
dp
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 17 Oct, 2016
Thanks for the input. The notes are quite difficult to figure out. I can understand why you lost patience
So 2 operators? How do you hear this?
So 2 operators? How do you hear this?
- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
Some time ago I did it on Dexed, but it's far from perfect:
https://clyp.it/nmnjaj55
It needs some movement, I guess, automation on parameters.
Maybe this can help you: http://www.greenplastic.com/mortigitemp ... ue-chords/
https://clyp.it/nmnjaj55
It needs some movement, I guess, automation on parameters.
Maybe this can help you: http://www.greenplastic.com/mortigitemp ... ue-chords/
My soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/waltercruz
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 17 Oct, 2016
Thanks! That definitely goes in the right direction.
I wanted to achieve the synth sound, because to me it sounds just awesome. It sounds warm but digital cold at the same time. So maybe it's just a simple 2 operator fm patch, and it's the chord progression that does the magic. I don't know. I just thought, now that's a sound you need to learn how to program it.
I more and more get the feeling that I'm really digging fm sounds. For instance i love a lot of Autechre stuff and found out that they use fm over and over. That's why I enjoy patching Bazille a lot.
I wanted to achieve the synth sound, because to me it sounds just awesome. It sounds warm but digital cold at the same time. So maybe it's just a simple 2 operator fm patch, and it's the chord progression that does the magic. I don't know. I just thought, now that's a sound you need to learn how to program it.
I more and more get the feeling that I'm really digging fm sounds. For instance i love a lot of Autechre stuff and found out that they use fm over and over. That's why I enjoy patching Bazille a lot.