Music from an imaginary Hollywood blockbuster
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- KVRAF
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- 2267 posts since 9 Mar, 2009 from Copenhagen, Denmark
I bought a bunch of sample libraries and I have to use 'em, I guess.
Cinematic stuff here. and a departure for me. Taking a short break from the 80s disco-funk
Does this sound like a joke? - I have no idea how to mix stuff like this
https://soundcloud.com/kbeesmusic/cinematic-suite
Cinematic stuff here. and a departure for me. Taking a short break from the 80s disco-funk
Does this sound like a joke? - I have no idea how to mix stuff like this
https://soundcloud.com/kbeesmusic/cinematic-suite
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- KVRian
- 645 posts since 4 Nov, 2013 from Vancouver, Canada
No, it doesn't sound like a joke. It does take a while to get going, but by the time you get toward the end, I'd say that it achieves a pretty cool, intense cinematic sort of vibe. I do wonder how it might sound if you went for a little bit more melodic development - perhaps with a violin part playing a separate line on top of the strings that you already have.
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- KVRAF
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- 2267 posts since 9 Mar, 2009 from Copenhagen, Denmark
Thanks
No doubt there could be a bit more movement in terms of melody and it's something I'll look into. It's just that these single classic instruments sounds pretty crappy for the most part, at least to me, but I'll experiment a bit more. Maybe do a part with some staccato strings?
It's my first try and I'm still fumbling a bit in this style, but it's way fun to do Just bought the Impact Soundworks orchestral bundle which is perfect for this kind of thing.
No doubt there could be a bit more movement in terms of melody and it's something I'll look into. It's just that these single classic instruments sounds pretty crappy for the most part, at least to me, but I'll experiment a bit more. Maybe do a part with some staccato strings?
It's my first try and I'm still fumbling a bit in this style, but it's way fun to do Just bought the Impact Soundworks orchestral bundle which is perfect for this kind of thing.
- KVRAF
- 7152 posts since 4 Apr, 2005 from here and there
No, it sounds good on my speakers.Does this sound like a joke?
I like the way the strings move/modulate from one chord to the other.
Good work with percussion, they give a good boost on the cinematic side.
A simple melody in the 2nd part will help giving sense to the buildup, imho
Well done
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- KVRAF
- 7691 posts since 11 Jun, 2006
yes, melodic developement...as it is, it was like the jeopardy gameshow theme that never
got over the hump. I did like the production on this, especially the strings.
got over the hump. I did like the production on this, especially the strings.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2267 posts since 9 Mar, 2009 from Copenhagen, Denmark
layzer wrote:yes, melodic developement...as it is, it was like the jeopardy gameshow theme that never
got over the hump. I did like the production on this, especially the strings.
LMAO @ Jeopardy
Na yes, melodic movement is key. I still got my work cut out for me (This is my first ever try at the style)
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
It's down to you... if you have a flute going (unless it really is a crap sample lib.), what has to happen for it to shine is you think musically like a really happening first flute in the orchestra. You don't, so it's just sitting there sounding crap. It could take some... well, decades. This is what being a consumer of these products is fraught with, I can well imagine the expectation from the shiny marketing and then it's all so flat.K-Bee wrote:It's just that these single classic instruments sounds pretty crappy for the most part,
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- KVRAF
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- 2267 posts since 9 Mar, 2009 from Copenhagen, Denmark
Agree. You have to work with what's available and make it shine on it's own. If it doesn't work there will always be another way around and that is not necessarily an instrument replacement. It all requires creative flow as well as hard work.
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 17 Sep, 2002
I'd say, play around with expression more on those long articulations. I don't know how Impact Soundworks does it, but a some of libraries have dynamics switching mapped to mod wheel, and overall volume mapped to expression (cc 11). Real players rarely maintain the exact same volume throughout the note, mostly because doing so is almost inhuman. Having static volume on long notes makes them sound more mechanical and sample-like. You can add automation after the fact, but I think recording that automation live is crucial to add that human element to the instrumentation. I do this by mapping my expression pedal to cc1, that way I have both my hands free and can still get organic-sounding swells and whatnot while recording the part.
Also, I'll echo some of the sentiment above and say that this seems to be missing melodic stuff to keep it moving.
The percussion is nice, and really helps deliver the message. I could go for a little more high-end sizzle on the "glitchy" bits, but that's really just a matter of personal preference, mix-wise.
As a first foray into this particular style, I think it's a good start. Learning these orchestral types of sample libraries is like learning a whole new instrument, really. Keep it up!
Also, I'll echo some of the sentiment above and say that this seems to be missing melodic stuff to keep it moving.
The percussion is nice, and really helps deliver the message. I could go for a little more high-end sizzle on the "glitchy" bits, but that's really just a matter of personal preference, mix-wise.
As a first foray into this particular style, I think it's a good start. Learning these orchestral types of sample libraries is like learning a whole new instrument, really. Keep it up!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2267 posts since 9 Mar, 2009 from Copenhagen, Denmark
Very good advice with the articulation parts funky lime! I need to figure out how to manipulate the patches in the Impact Soundworks libraries. It's about one week since I bought them and haven't had much time to play around with them.
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- KVRian
- 645 posts since 4 Nov, 2013 from Vancouver, Canada
Hey, it's definitely a great first track in this style. That Impact Soundworks deal (which was an insanely good one) will give you some neat tools to get started with orchestral stuff. Sure, definitely give the staccato strings a try and see if you like the results! I feel like I spend more time just playing around with orchestral libraries than I actually spend writing anything.K-Bee wrote:Thanks
No doubt there could be a bit more movement in terms of melody and it's something I'll look into. It's just that these single classic instruments sounds pretty crappy for the most part, at least to me, but I'll experiment a bit more. Maybe do a part with some staccato strings?
It's my first try and I'm still fumbling a bit in this style, but it's way fun to do Just bought the Impact Soundworks orchestral bundle which is perfect for this kind of thing.
- Banned
- 155 posts since 27 Mar, 2008 from California
Want hash browns or potatoes with that, hon?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2267 posts since 9 Mar, 2009 from Copenhagen, Denmark
Thanksdavidstiles wrote:Hey, it's definitely a great first track in this style. That Impact Soundworks deal (which was an insanely good one) will give you some neat tools to get started with orchestral stuff. Sure, definitely give the staccato strings a try and see if you like the results! I feel like I spend more time just playing around with orchestral libraries than I actually spend writing anything.K-Bee wrote:Thanks
No doubt there could be a bit more movement in terms of melody and it's something I'll look into. It's just that these single classic instruments sounds pretty crappy for the most part, at least to me, but I'll experiment a bit more. Maybe do a part with some staccato strings?
It's my first try and I'm still fumbling a bit in this style, but it's way fun to do Just bought the Impact Soundworks orchestral bundle which is perfect for this kind of thing.
I wasn't actually going to venture into this style at all (I'm an 80s/90s funky cheese man ) but I had to jump on the Impact Soundworks deal. Just to inexpensive to pass. Apart from me lacking a lot of spare time, I'm having tremendous fun with those libraries, and plan to incorporate them into my "normal" style of music if possible.