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Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:24 am

I'm not goin' crazy, this isn't in my imagination. More than half the presets in Falcon are definitely out of tune. Now, I realize some of em, especially the leads have Xtreme lfos on pitch but others that aren't are as much as 1/4 of a semitone out. Anyone else picked up on this?

Id rather them be exactly a semitone out like the many Synthmaster presets than slightly gone.

otristan · Post by **otristan** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:35 am

Maybe you have changed the top right global tune to something else than 440 hz ?

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:44 pm

otristan wrote:Maybe you have changed the top right global tune to something else than 440 hz ?

No. Some are and some aren't

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:56 pm

Kinh wrote:
otristan wrote:Maybe you have changed the top right global tune to something else than 440 hz ?
No. Some are and some aren't

I am sure if you took the time to dissect each patch, you will find the reason for it being out of tune. A synth just doesn't go out of tune. The patch itself had to be programmed that way, just like some of the Synthmaster patches, which, by the way, drive me crazy. But that's why I make my own presets so I don't have this problem.

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:39 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Kinh wrote:
otristan wrote:Maybe you have changed the top right global tune to something else than 440 hz ?
No. Some are and some aren't
I am sure if you took the time to dissect each patch, you will find the reason for it being out of tune. A synth just doesn't go out of tune. The patch itself had to be programmed that way, just like some of the Synthmaster patches, which, by the way, drive me crazy. But that's why I make my own presets so I don't have this problem.

Why do they have to be programed that way? If a patch's tuning is not the same as your project then that patch is useless as far as I'm concerned. It's not just Falcon, some Massive factory patches are out of tune too. It's really quite disturbing.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:44 pm

Did you give Falcon some time to warm up? Sorry, had to.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:50 pm

Kinh wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
Kinh wrote:
otristan wrote:Maybe you have changed the top right global tune to something else than 440 hz ?
No. Some are and some aren't
I am sure if you took the time to dissect each patch, you will find the reason for it being out of tune. A synth just doesn't go out of tune. The patch itself had to be programmed that way, just like some of the Synthmaster patches, which, by the way, drive me crazy. But that's why I make my own presets so I don't have this problem.
Why do they have to be programed that way? If a patch's tuning is not the same as your project then that patch is useless as far as I'm concerned. It's not just Falcon, some Massive factory patches are out of tune too. It's really quite disturbing.

If these things disturb you, may I recommend a good psychiatrist? Seriously. So what? So don't use them. Not EVERY patch has to be programmed to YOUR liking. I don't like certain patches on some synths too. I don't come here and complain about them. I just ignore them and move onto the ones I do like.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:50 pm

chk071 wrote:Did you give Falcon some time to warm up? Sorry, had to.

You're a very bad boy.

Acid Mitch · Post by **Acid Mitch** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:58 pm

Doesn't Falcon and Massive have a tune knob ?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:00 pm

Its designed for EDM, so being in tune is irrelevant

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:02 pm

I actually think its the other half of the presets that are out of tune.

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:15 pm

Chances are it's a keyboard controller sending intermittent pitchbend messages.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:27 pm

Gamma-UT wrote:Chances are it's a keyboard controller sending intermittent pitchbend messages.

+1

Does the same thing happen even if your keyboard is not plugged in?

Or maybe try Falcon in a different DAW if you have one.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:41 pm

I had a similar problem with a cheap midi controller. It never returned to zero after using and resetting the pitch bend. Greg from OTS examined one of my midi files and pointed out the error.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:48 pm

Just like plastic, off tune is the new analog.

Anyone noticed how Falcon presets are out of tune?