Do you buy impulse responses?
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- KVRAF
- 4798 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Lots of good ideas here! Too bad Spirit Canyon is gone. I agree with ghettosynth about uniqueness. I was just looking through my thousands of IRs and noticed that most were based on spaces, instruments and various objects or other technology; very few vocal IRs. I would buy vocal IRs categorised into male/female singers, duets and groups, from bass to soprano. Not held notes, but vocal FX. If they were in an plugin that enabled shaping with EQ and envelope, that would also be good.
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- KVRian
- 1111 posts since 6 Jul, 2009
One could try to contact him via his homepage : http://palancar.netToo bad Spirit Canyon is gone.
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- KVRian
- 975 posts since 10 Jan, 2007 from London
If I bought them I'd feel like I have to use them instead of all the fun I'm looking forward to having trawling through the 1000's of free ones already on my hard drive!
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- KVRAF
- 4798 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Thank you. I did, and the IRs are no longer available. But he is sharing great ambient music for download!paulbreeze wrote:One could try to contact him via his homepage : http://palancar.netToo bad Spirit Canyon is gone.
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- KVRian
- 549 posts since 9 Aug, 2005 from USA
Spirit Canyon was interesting, the closest thing to it are the Prime Sonic Spaces collections.paulbreeze wrote:Sure. Love Spirit Canyon Audio's stuff.
These are a much more broad group of Impulses since they contain the experimental, hardware, acoustic spaces as well as multi-fx.
The multi-fx are pretty cool as they are literally multible fx in one impulse response.
Also they have reversed fx and multi-directional fx simultaneously.
The entire library is 24-32 bit.
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- KVRian
- 1146 posts since 24 Jul, 2008 from England
I concur with what others have said. If they're unique spaces or niche gear then it would depend. The ones in chipcrusher have a theme, so smaller themed packs could be an avenue. If we're talking about a massive, well organised set like those in speakerphone, I'm sure people would appreciate a more DIY approached, cheaper alternative. Also open to completely designed textures and spaces, as in fantastical unrealistic textures. As this is something we can all do by throwing random samples into a convolution reverb, they'd need to be be up to snuff, or have a usp. I'd be willing to pay the price of a preset soundbank for a smaller sized set, or in the case of a speakerphone alternative, considerably more than that, relative to how extensive it is.
Edit: realised I should mention that I see them as a sound design tool, quite similar to single wave cycles. I use stuff like guitar cab IRs as easy tonal shapers. Also more bonkers stuff like convolving strings with piano samples to get strange ambient beds and drones. The sky is the limit. The cool thing about fruity convolver is you can use the stretch parameter to repitch to get more musical results, and you basically have Edison's editing tools at your disposal.
Edit: realised I should mention that I see them as a sound design tool, quite similar to single wave cycles. I use stuff like guitar cab IRs as easy tonal shapers. Also more bonkers stuff like convolving strings with piano samples to get strange ambient beds and drones. The sky is the limit. The cool thing about fruity convolver is you can use the stretch parameter to repitch to get more musical results, and you basically have Edison's editing tools at your disposal.
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- KVRian
- 1226 posts since 26 Feb, 2016
Why not?
If something is worth owning, its worth buying.
I spent $$ on Altiverb, just wish the devs had kept up with the windows versions.
Still, some of the best reverbs available are impulse responses and now with more powerful computers, the CPU cycles are not as much of an issue.
In all the many free impulse responses I have downloaded (many), still most of the ones I have found usable were purchased. (Altiverb, Prime Sonic Space, Best-service, etc.)
The free bricasti were nice but limited by comparison to all the amazing halls and unique spaces available on the market.
Free is nice but I sometimes choose not to be limited by it.
If something is worth owning, its worth buying.
I spent $$ on Altiverb, just wish the devs had kept up with the windows versions.
Still, some of the best reverbs available are impulse responses and now with more powerful computers, the CPU cycles are not as much of an issue.
In all the many free impulse responses I have downloaded (many), still most of the ones I have found usable were purchased. (Altiverb, Prime Sonic Space, Best-service, etc.)
The free bricasti were nice but limited by comparison to all the amazing halls and unique spaces available on the market.
Free is nice but I sometimes choose not to be limited by it.
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- KVRist
- 129 posts since 7 Mar, 2014 from Moon
I voted maybe, because although I bought some in the past, I don't think I'll buy more IRs again soon. There are already thousands of free impulses around, especially from expensive hardware gear. Plus, after watching Diego Stocco's tutorial on convolution processing, I am more interested into making my own creative impulses. Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvJWlKBW0Kk
https://gumroad.com/l/FFS02
https://gumroad.com/l/FFS02
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- KVRAF
- 2084 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
I emailed him once a few months ago to directly pay pal him funds for Kaleidoscopy (the only set I didn't own) but he didn't seem interested - Weird, turning down free money !Michael L wrote:Thank you. I did, and the IRs are no longer available. But he is sharing great ambient music for download!paulbreeze wrote:One could try to contact him via his homepage : http://palancar.netToo bad Spirit Canyon is gone.
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- KVRAF
- 4798 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
Darrell's giving us his latest really good ambient album for free (in mp3, OGG and FLAC) so I think money isn't his thing.mcbpete wrote:Weird, turning down free money !
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- KVRAF
- 15516 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Well, not that I disagree, and it's slightly off topic, but ambient music is REALLY hard to sell!Michael L wrote:Darrell's giving us his latest really good ambient album for free (in mp3 and FLAC) so I think money isn't his thing.mcbpete wrote:Weird, turning down free money !
There are multiple people, all completely unknown, in my bandcamp feed with upward of 100 releases or more each, hours upon hours of ambient music, available for peanuts.
I think that it might actually be easier to sell punk albums from the local unknown bands who've only been playing for a few weeks. Noise might be harder to sell, I'm not sure actually.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4290 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
It's an interesting subject, and as a part time music seller (I sell CDs, vinyls and audio cassettes online) this is something that interested me a lot so I created this thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=477557ghettosynth wrote:Well, not that I disagree, and it's slightly off topic, but ambient music is REALLY hard to sell!Michael L wrote:Darrell's giving us his latest really good ambient album for free (in mp3 and FLAC) so I think money isn't his thing.mcbpete wrote:Weird, turning down free money !
There are multiple people, all completely unknown, in my bandcamp feed with upward of 100 releases or more each, hours upon hours of ambient music, available for peanuts.
I think that it might actually be easier to sell punk albums from the local unknown bands who've only been playing for a few weeks. Noise might be harder to sell, I'm not sure actually.
Feel free to continue the discussion there.
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- KVRian
- 992 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Honestly, half the fun in weird impulse responses is making your own. Rather than look for another vendor, I'd suggest folks simply record some sounds, mess with them in an audio editor, apply some fades in/out to control envelope, and see what results you get. Won't take long at all to get the hang of it - it's actually easy.
As to free money, well like someone said I'm in it for the art now. I had a lot of fun with Spirit Canyon Audio and really appreciate all the support this community gave it, but now I really just want to focus on enjoying music, whether listening, making or talking about it.
As to free money, well like someone said I'm in it for the art now. I had a lot of fun with Spirit Canyon Audio and really appreciate all the support this community gave it, but now I really just want to focus on enjoying music, whether listening, making or talking about it.
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- KVRAF
- 14938 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
Some traditional high end hardware reverbs from Prime Sonic Space:
https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... -responses
https://soundcloud.com/vintage-synth-pa ... -responses
