BlueARP VST Arpeggiator development - let's discuss! (Apple M1 ready, 4K)

[Frostline]

Sorry for an absolute noob question but just could not find it out with the manual or by trying.

How can I make blue arp play arp ("arp enabled") but only when there is a midi note/chord coming in ? It just wont stop playing in arp enabled mode, also midi in has long stopped.

My config is a standalone app (sundog)-loop midi-standalone app (freestyle) with blue arp as first input. I now it must be something easy I just have overseen but

On the left hand side there is a filter section, at the bottom of that is a check box for arp latch.
That box being checked will cause the behavior you are describing, though it might not be the only cause.
I would start there.

[MonoLight]

Hi, I'm trying this great arp!!
My problem is how to automate on/latch. I send CC 03/43 from external keyboard/surface control/iPad and nothing happens!!
Can someboby help?
Thanks.

[Yeager]

Hello Mr Wolf

Is there a reason why the attached preset sounds different in version 2.2.3 and 2.2.4 ?
I get a retrigger of the 6th note in the 224 version and 223 does a long note, set the bpm to about 80 to really hear the difference.(and set the steps to 8 notes)

303LikeBassLine.zip

[graywolf2004]

Sorry for an absolute noob question but just could not find it out with the manual or by trying.

How can I make blue arp play arp ("arp enabled") but only when there is a midi note/chord coming in ? It just wont stop playing in arp enabled mode, also midi in has long stopped.

My config is a standalone app (sundog)-loop midi-standalone app (freestyle) with blue arp as first input. I now it must be something easy I just have overseen but

Try setting
restart on = key
Arp will start when you press a key and stop when all keys are released.

[tatanka]

Hi Oleg,

Try setting
restart on = key

that was the one knob I have to find, thanks a lot, and, frostline, thank you too of course "latch" have to be turned off.

Sadly I realized I just have another problem: I am not sure if it is in any environment, but I try to use blue arp in freestyle (kind of rack environment with standalone and vst version) and there when I save a preset and open it blue arp dont seem to remember the preset I have used. I think it might be a freestyle problem (will ask the develloper too) but maybe you have an idea about it.

I use blue arp 2.2.4 and the preset banks from opax (win 7, 64 bit, freestyle is 64 bit too). When I open the saved preset again the bank from opax is gone and I am again to preset 1 from the factory bank.

[graywolf2004]

Hello Mr Wolf

Is there a reason why the attached preset sounds different in version 2.2.3 and 2.2.4 ?
I get a retrigger of the 6th note in the 224 version and 223 does a long note, set the bpm to about 80 to really hear the difference.(and set the steps to 8 notes)

303LikeBassLine.zip

I did a lot of code refactoring since then so I can't tell exactly what happened. But I found a bug in 'Tie' algorithm, it doest work if gate is < 50%. So try to set gate above 50% - tie steps should work. I can see also you set gate per step '4x' for step 6. IMHO no much sense to use it with 303-like glides, Tie step type should to the job, you can set several steps in a row to Tie and it should work also, creating a longer glide.
I fixed it in 2.2.5, but still can't release it, cause it's a lot of technical changes. I'm refactoring my code to be shared between software and hardware implementation.

[Yeager]

Hello Mr Wolf

Is there a reason why the attached preset sounds different in version 2.2.3 and 2.2.4 ?
I get a retrigger of the 6th note in the 224 version and 223 does a long note, set the bpm to about 80 to really hear the difference.(and set the steps to 8 notes)

303LikeBassLine.zip

I did a lot of code refactoring since then so I can't tell exactly what happened. But I found a bug in 'Tie' algorithm, it doest work if gate is < 50%. So try to set gate above 50% - tie steps should work. I can see also you set gate per step '4x' for step 6. IMHO no much sense to use it with 303-like glides, Tie step type should to the job, you can set several steps in a row to Tie and it should work also, creating a longer glide.
I fixed it in 2.2.5, but still can't release it, cause it's a lot of technical changes. I'm refactoring my code to be shared between software and hardware implementation.

Thanks for reacting, I already found out that the gate% changed the patch a lot.
What I mean is when I set the gate% lower, say 40% the sequence in 223 sounds WRONG like 224 but when I UP THE GATE% IN 224 i CAN NOT GET IT TO SOUND LIKE 223.
EDIT:(This part is not completely true) The patch is called 303likeBassline, but I play it with a polyphonic sound, so the 4x is used to sustain a note not to overlap it for a glide (also 8x in step 13).
And steps 9-16 do weird things when I set the synth to mono/legato mode, so it's not suitable for a mono/legato synthpatch. (end EDIT)
To be on the safeside , the bug you found in the 'Tie' is in 224 not in 223
What I mean is : 223 plays it RIGHT and 224 is WRONG.

Thank you for this great Arpeggiator

[MonoLight]

Hello Mr. Wolf,
I wonder if it a way of automatize arp enabled and arp latch from an external device.

Thanks,
MonoLight

[kitman]

Bluearp and Jack Transport.

Hi,
I use Bluearp x64 2.2.4 in my openSUSE Leap42.2 x64 linux setup using carla to host it. All good so far. But when I want to record something in a DAW with Bluearp playing a sequence, as soon as my Jack Transport starts rolling Bluearp stops dead.

It won't run again until Jack transport is stopped.

Any reason why this should happen?

Thanks,
Chris.

[graywolf2004]

Hi all.
Sorry for long silence, I was complelely into hardware prototyping, the creating demo video for BlueARP hardware.
I created a dedicated thread for BlueARP hardware prototype:
viewtopic.php?f=102&t=480059

Hopefully in near future BlueARP will emerge as a serial hardware device.
Please share your opionions on it in the thread mentioned above.

Next weeks I'm planning to switch back to plugin version, to fix some stuff I postponed for several weeks and finally to post an update.

[graywolf2004]

Hello Mr Wolf

Is there a reason why the attached preset sounds different in version 2.2.3 and 2.2.4 ?
I get a retrigger of the 6th note in the 224 version and 223 does a long note, set the bpm to about 80 to really hear the difference.(and set the steps to 8 notes)

303LikeBassLine.zip

I did a lot of code refactoring since then so I can't tell exactly what happened. But I found a bug in 'Tie' algorithm, it doest work if gate is < 50%. So try to set gate above 50% - tie steps should work. I can see also you set gate per step '4x' for step 6. IMHO no much sense to use it with 303-like glides, Tie step type should to the job, you can set several steps in a row to Tie and it should work also, creating a longer glide.
I fixed it in 2.2.5, but still can't release it, cause it's a lot of technical changes. I'm refactoring my code to be shared between software and hardware implementation.

Thanks for reacting, I already found out that the gate% changed the patch a lot.
What I mean is when I set the gate% lower, say 40% the sequence in 223 sounds WRONG like 224 but when I UP THE GATE% IN 224 i CAN NOT GET IT TO SOUND LIKE 223.
EDIT:(This part is not completely true) The patch is called 303likeBassline, but I play it with a polyphonic sound, so the 4x is used to sustain a note not to overlap it for a glide (also 8x in step 13).
And steps 9-16 do weird things when I set the synth to mono/legato mode, so it's not suitable for a mono/legato synthpatch. (end EDIT)
To be on the safeside , the bug you found in the 'Tie' is in 224 not in 223
What I mean is : 223 plays it RIGHT and 224 is WRONG.

Thank you for this great Arpeggiator

Sorry for delay, I kept in mind chacking this case but only now I spent an hour, testing your pattern in 223, 224 and my current version.
I found a flaw in 224. Before Tie note, the previous note shoud have length = 125% of the step (to overlap with the next one and create glide effect), which doesnt happen in 224, it's a bug.
Can you please check it this version works with your pattern?
http://www.graywolf2004.net/files/temp/ ... 25_pre.zip
(just replace the dll for a test, but don't use it further yet, it's still not ready for release)

EDIT:(This part is not completely true) The patch is called 303likeBassline, but I play it with a polyphonic sound, so the 4x is used to sustain a note not to overlap it for a glide (also 8x in step 13).
And steps 9-16 do weird things when I set the synth to mono/legato mode, so it's not suitable for a mono/legato synthpatch. (end EDIT)

Yes, GATE PER STEP is not only useless, it's harmful for mono/legato mode. I made it to do guitar-like stuff with long notes. Now I realize that probably it's a good idea to introduce mono/poly mode switch, so in mono mode all irrelevant features will be disabled. At least for hardware version it makes sense...

[Yeager]

Hi Mr. Wolf

Just tested 225 and as far as I can tell it plays the pattern like 223 did, so you're on the right track

Thanks for your time.

About the poly/mono stuff I was writing, it seams I was totally wrong, I did use a mono synth when I made that preset, but later when I tested the two BlueArp versions 223/224 I used a poly synth, that's why I edited the part and made sure that the nonsense I was writing was only partly true
But if my mistake made you think about a mono/poly switch, then maybe this was not a waste of time

Sorry for delay, I kept in mind chacking this case but only now I spent an hour, testing your pattern in 223, 224 and my current version.
I found a flaw in 224. Before Tie note, the previous note shoud have length = 125% of the step (to overlap with the next one and create glide effect), which doesnt happen in 224, it's a bug.
Can you please check it this version works with your pattern?
http://www.graywolf2004.net/files/temp/ ... 25_pre.zip
(just replace the dll for a test, but don't use it further yet, it's still not ready for release)

EDIT:(This part is not completely true) The patch is called 303likeBassline, but I play it with a polyphonic sound, so the 4x is used to sustain a note not to overlap it for a glide (also 8x in step 13).
And steps 9-16 do weird things when I set the synth to mono/legato mode, so it's not suitable for a mono/legato synthpatch. (end EDIT)

Yes, GATE PER STEP is not only useless, it's harmful for mono/legato mode. I made it to do guitar-like stuff with long notes. Now I realize that probably it's a good idea to introduce mono/poly mode switch, so in mono mode all irrelevant features will be disabled. At least for hardware version it makes sense...

[graywolf2004]

Hi Mr. Wolf

Just tested 225 and as far as I can tell it plays the pattern like 223 did, so you're on the right track

Thanks for your time.

About the poly/mono stuff I was writing, it seams I was totally wrong, I did use a mono synth when I made that preset, but later when I tested the two BlueArp versions 223/224 I used a poly synth, that's why I edited the part and made sure that the nonsense I was writing was only partly true
But if my mistake made you think about a mono/poly switch, then maybe this was not a waste of time

Well, yeah, maybe using gate per step is not a bad idea with mono synth. I tried it with different glide time, and at some point it creates some wild gliding, not achievable with Tie steps. Especially if gate is relatively short - 50% or less, like in your case.

[declan32001]

I deleted my original post, I've got it working in Sonar & Reaper. Great product!

[Mc UB]

For those interested: I've created a tutorial on an easy way how to record Blue Arp's MIDI output into a pianoroll in FL Studio.

You can find it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFv7wgBj1AY

If you like it, leave a comment

regards, Frank