you can open several modulators at once. ctrl+click on win i think and cmd+click on mac.thetechnobear wrote:, at the moment if you start chaining them/combining them - it quickly becomes very difficult to see what is connected to what (you have to click on each modulator in turn)
bitwig 2 is here
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In Live one cannot add a poly LFO onto Operator. In Bitwig 2, one can add a poly LFO onto FM4thetechnobear wrote:No not really possible to do poly modulators from M4L to a non-M4L instrument, since theres no interface to do this (you can do, if your within your own M4L device, e.g. oscillot)pdxindy wrote: Also, it has been like 9 months since I used any M4L device since I stopped using M4L so maybe I am not remembering but can M4L modulators like LFO function polyphonically like Bitwig modulators can in v2?
and while it is true that with Bitwig v2 poly modulators will not yet work with VST's, the basic infrastructure is mostly developed to make that possible somewhere along the way.
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Is that the CPU meter I see jumping that high?xbitz wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdhz_03RMbA
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Agree M4L is clunky, I much prefer BW2 for what I do. I have to say the more I demo BW2 the more I like it, caveat being its not my primary DAW and have always gelled with it more than Live.pdxindy wrote:I have always found M4L a bit clunky and unreliable. Live is solid for me when using just Live... but when I start adding in M4L devices, it becomes more crash prone.woodsdenis wrote:I agree M4L can do all of the mod stuff but the fact they are baked in makes the workflow much quicker and more intuitive. No question Live is a way more advanced product but I do enjoy using Bitwig more, that being said I use Cubase most of the time, if Bitwig was my only DAW I would have a different opinion.
Also, it has been like 9 months since I used any M4L device since I stopped using M4L so maybe I am not remembering but can M4L modulators like LFO function polyphonically like Bitwig modulators can in v2?
Live is more advanced in some ways... but no MPE support, no multi-clip editing, no audio events inside a clip, etc... there are lots of very useful functions Bitwig has that Live doesn't. So it depends on what a user wants. If they prioritize MPE support, then Bitwig is more advanced.
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that's the 3x7 detuned stacked oscillators(JPX Saw Ana1) per note (+delay, and phaser) in Avenger ...incubus wrote:Is that the CPU meter I see jumping that high?xbitz wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdhz_03RMbA
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tooneba wrote:max for nerds
MuLab-Reaper of course
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Unfortunately some plugins won't show up in Bitwig2. But it's totally random (FabFilter, UAD, NI, ...). Sometimes I open 2 DAWs for direct comparison of the sounds and features. May it be that plugins can flagged something like "used" from one daw and therefore not open in another at the same time? Or does Bitwig check some magical state?
Since I've never heard of that issues from someone else, it might by some mysterious setting on my system but there's nothing fancy on here
Since I've never heard of that issues from someone else, it might by some mysterious setting on my system but there's nothing fancy on here
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- 6112 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
Not really sure if poly lfo to vsti is possible .pdxindy wrote:In Live one cannot add a poly LFO onto Operator. In Bitwig 2, one can add a poly LFO onto FM4thetechnobear wrote:No not really possible to do poly modulators from M4L to a non-M4L instrument, since theres no interface to do this (you can do, if your within your own M4L device, e.g. oscillot)pdxindy wrote: Also, it has been like 9 months since I used any M4L device since I stopped using M4L so maybe I am not remembering but can M4L modulators like LFO function polyphonically like Bitwig modulators can in v2?
and while it is true that with Bitwig v2 poly modulators will not yet work with VST's, the basic infrastructure is mostly developed to make that possible somewhere along the way.
They will need to have acces on how the vsti calculates voices .
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So you can do one cool thing but can't add anything else to it then?xbitz wrote:that's the 3x7 detuned stacked oscillators(JPX Saw Ana1) per note (+delay, and phaser) in Avenger ...incubus wrote:Is that the CPU meter I see jumping that high?xbitz wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdhz_03RMbA
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There is VST3 Note expression (some level of implementation in v2) and also the Note Per Channel option. Polyphonic modulation already works with vst's in that limited way.gentleclockdivider wrote:Not really sure if poly lfo to vsti is possible .pdxindy wrote:In Live one cannot add a poly LFO onto Operator. In Bitwig 2, one can add a poly LFO onto FM4thetechnobear wrote:No not really possible to do poly modulators from M4L to a non-M4L instrument, since theres no interface to do this (you can do, if your within your own M4L device, e.g. oscillot)pdxindy wrote: Also, it has been like 9 months since I used any M4L device since I stopped using M4L so maybe I am not remembering but can M4L modulators like LFO function polyphonically like Bitwig modulators can in v2?
and while it is true that with Bitwig v2 poly modulators will not yet work with VST's, the basic infrastructure is mostly developed to make that possible somewhere along the way.
They will need to have acces on how the vsti calculates voices .
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Well its here now.
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