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- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
If you want to work completely inside your computer (we refer to this as In The Box, ITB) the only thing you really need apart from the computer are Studio Monitors.
If you are really comfortable working ITB and have a good budget I would invest in a very nice studio monitors: genelec, focal, sceptre s8, something in that price range.
One thing that can be tedious while working ITB is writing notes, for this a MIDI keyboard can be useful as well as for playing stuff (if you know how to play).
Personally If I was going to work completely ITB I would get Ableton Push 2 (because it is an excellent controller that makes making melodies, harmony and drum sequences fun and easy) , an audio interface (since I am in windows) and Genelec 8330 monitors along the subwoofer 7350.
If you are really comfortable working ITB and have a good budget I would invest in a very nice studio monitors: genelec, focal, sceptre s8, something in that price range.
One thing that can be tedious while working ITB is writing notes, for this a MIDI keyboard can be useful as well as for playing stuff (if you know how to play).
Personally If I was going to work completely ITB I would get Ableton Push 2 (because it is an excellent controller that makes making melodies, harmony and drum sequences fun and easy) , an audio interface (since I am in windows) and Genelec 8330 monitors along the subwoofer 7350.
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- KVRian
- 626 posts since 15 Jun, 2015
That sounds like pretty good advice to me, but I've never gotten on well with those pad style controllers. For me, it would be a Focusrite audio interface, a Novation Impulse61, and my Yamaha H7 monitors.rod_zero wrote:Personally If I was going to work completely ITB I would get Ableton Push 2 (because it is an excellent controller that makes making melodies, harmony and drum sequences fun and easy) , an audio interface (since I am in windows) and Genelec 8330 monitors along the subwoofer 7350.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35171 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Push 2, Remote SL, NI interface and Genelec monitors (with sub) here.
Then there's the hardware synths, mixers, effects, guitars ...
Then there's the hardware synths, mixers, effects, guitars ...
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
if you play keys, yes of course a keyboard controller makes more sense, but if Not Push is excellent.RichieWitch wrote:That sounds like pretty good advice to me, but I've never gotten on well with those pad style controllers. For me, it would be a Focusrite audio interface, a Novation Impulse61, and my Yamaha H7 monitors.rod_zero wrote:Personally If I was going to work completely ITB I would get Ableton Push 2 (because it is an excellent controller that makes making melodies, harmony and drum sequences fun and easy) , an audio interface (since I am in windows) and Genelec 8330 monitors along the subwoofer 7350.
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- KVRian
- 626 posts since 15 Jun, 2015
Agreed. It all depends on how your brain works.rod_zero wrote:if you play keys, yes of course a keyboard controller makes more sense, but if Not Push is excellent.RichieWitch wrote:That sounds like pretty good advice to me, but I've never gotten on well with those pad style controllers. For me, it would be a Focusrite audio interface, a Novation Impulse61, and my Yamaha H7 monitors.rod_zero wrote:Personally If I was going to work completely ITB I would get Ableton Push 2 (because it is an excellent controller that makes making melodies, harmony and drum sequences fun and easy) , an audio interface (since I am in windows) and Genelec 8330 monitors along the subwoofer 7350.
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ImpossibleMachines ImpossibleMachines https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392846
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 20 posts since 29 Jan, 2017 from NZ
i pretty much work ITB, i compose everything in FL piano roll then bounce the midi into logic, i do mess around with the mac keyboard for melodies cause i don't own a midi controller.rod_zero wrote:If you want to work completely inside your computer (we refer to this as In The Box, ITB) the only thing you really need apart from the computer are Studio Monitors.
If you are really comfortable working ITB and have a good budget I would invest in a very nice studio monitors: genelec, focal, sceptre s8, something in that price range.
One thing that can be tedious while working ITB is writing notes, for this a MIDI keyboard can be useful as well as for playing stuff (if you know how to play).
Personally If I was going to work completely ITB I would get Ableton Push 2 (because it is an excellent controller that makes making melodies, harmony and drum sequences fun and easy) , an audio interface (since I am in windows) and Genelec 8330 monitors along the subwoofer 7350.
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ImpossibleMachines ImpossibleMachines https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392846
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 20 posts since 29 Jan, 2017 from NZ
how's push 2 in terms of work flow?thecontrolcentre wrote:Push 2, Remote SL, NI interface and Genelec monitors (with sub) here.
Then there's the hardware synths, mixers, effects, guitars ...
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ImpossibleMachines ImpossibleMachines https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392846
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 20 posts since 29 Jan, 2017 from NZ
How do they do that with the kik, is it compressed? i have no compressor on mine, may need a new kik sample tbh.Xiangqi wrote:it sounds pretty good, maybe not as clear overall as you might like it (cut out some low-mid?). the kick could be more prominent but that's a tough call. it's just i've recently heard some djs live-streaming from clubs and my response usually is 'wow it's like a giant kick and then some other things swirling around with it... but that kick, wow'ImpossibleMachines wrote:i provided a link for a drop i made with no top lead
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ppjkxfwrweagx ... e.wav?dl=0
as mentioned, after mixing you want to listen on as many systems as possible. understood that such can be a sort of chicken and egg thing, but if you have a car stereo for instance, check it out in the car, or if you have a friend with access to a club p.a., give it a go over there, or on tiny earbuds which is what a lot of people are listening on, or through a phone speaker which some people do...
anyway, it sounds pretty good.
thanks
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35171 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Its great with Live 9. Takes a bit of getting used to how it plays scales in instrument mode, but once you "get it" its great. The drum rack/step sequencer setup is awesome. I use mine alongside a ReMOTE SL keyboard (the original 2 screen version). Works perfectly for my workflow.ImpossibleMachines wrote:how's push 2 interns of work flow?thecontrolcentre wrote:Push 2, Remote SL, NI interface and Genelec monitors (with sub) here.
Then there's the hardware synths, mixers, effects, guitars ...
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Ableton Push is a great device for inputting notes but it is limited to Ableton Live, so you would need to change DAW. Is it worth it? for me it is but for someone very comfortable with other DAW it may not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSC5zRr4zfw
NI Maschine is also quite good at providing an interface to input notes/beats and works in any host. I also like it but I prefer Push 64 pads layout for inputting notes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSC5zRr4zfw
NI Maschine is also quite good at providing an interface to input notes/beats and works in any host. I also like it but I prefer Push 64 pads layout for inputting notes.
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ImpossibleMachines ImpossibleMachines https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392846
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 20 posts since 29 Jan, 2017 from NZ
how does this help in composing chord progressions, melodies etc compared to a midi keyboard?, do you not have to draw in the chord then assign it to pad then start messing around?rod_zero wrote:Ableton Push is a great device for inputting notes but it is limited to Ableton Live, so you would need to change DAW. Is it worth it? for me it is but for someone very comfortable with other DAW it may not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSC5zRr4zfw
NI Maschine is also quite good at providing an interface to input notes/beats and works in any host. I also like it but I prefer Push 64 pads layout for inputting notes.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35171 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Well to start Push has something called "scale mode" where the pads only play notes in a scale of your choosing. You don't have to assign chords to pads first, the pads are notes, a group of 3 or 4 notes form a chord.ImpossibleMachines wrote:how does this help in composing chord progressions, melodies etc compared to a midi keyboard?, do you not have to draw in the chord then assign it to pad then start messing around?rod_zero wrote:Ableton Push is a great device for inputting notes but it is limited to Ableton Live, so you would need to change DAW. Is it worth it? for me it is but for someone very comfortable with other DAW it may not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSC5zRr4zfw
NI Maschine is also quite good at providing an interface to input notes/beats and works in any host. I also like it but I prefer Push 64 pads layout for inputting notes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFxK9eoZYE
It is not presented in the video but it also has a step sequencer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXZHD0C75As
Now the advantage of Push is that it is a keyboard, a drum pad, step sequencer and provides access to many DAW functions all in a single device. I use it alone or along a traditional keyboard.
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