KVR Audio

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:29 pm

aMUSEd wrote:So does Alchemy, so did Cameleon too actually

Not on realtime signals it didn't

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:46 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote:Very interesting concept, new to me. Another thing on want list.

pekbro wrote:Well this seems interesting, I cant help but think they might
have missed an opportunity to build in some more interesting
effects here though. Granular maybe, or some other kinds of re-synthesis...
Yes, but you shoudl be able to use empty effect chain just to strip transient or body for further processing in your own chain

separate outputs ?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:19 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:So does Alchemy, so did Cameleon too actually
Not on realtime signals it didn't

Well yes, but internally generated by their own oscs (ie not effects)

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:05 pm

shonky wrote:Could you not do this in Ableton with effect racks - run two chains, one with the transient, one with the sustain, add different fx after each? Certainly a greater variety of options post-split...

From what I saw in the video, yes you could. I didn't see anything special other than the visual feedback, which you can create if you are using Live's gate effect... but of course then you will only see one gate effect at a time.

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:15 pm

elxsound wrote:
shonky wrote:Could you not do this in Ableton with effect racks - run two chains, one with the transient, one with the sustain, add different fx after each? Certainly a greater variety of options post-split...

From what I saw in the video, yes you could. I didn't see anything special other than the visual feedback, which you can create if you are using Live's gate effect... but of course then you will only see one gate effect at a time.

That's exactly how I did it, great minds think alike I guess

Thinking about it, you could do exactly what Transgressor does too if you stick an eq after each, necessity being the mother of invention for the broke-ass music maker.

Aleatoriac · Post by **Aleatoriac** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:17 pm

shonky wrote:Could you not do this in Ableton with effect racks - run two chains, one with the transient, one with the sustain, add different fx after each? Certainly a greater variety of options post-split...

Been doing that for a couple years. Used NI Transient master on each of the chains in the rack. So yes.

CinningBao · Post by **CinningBao** » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:23 pm

Ah man, I reeeally wanted to be a bit more excited about this.. so they've developed/enhanced some FFT/PV code to spilt the sound (which we can already to with other technology, but not in realtime (is Falcon an effect or just a synth?)) in to Trans/Noise/Tone and dumped some time-domain effects in there?

Perhaps the actual resynthesis of the raw sound is more interesting if you muck around with the ...nope, there's nothing to muck around with.

Maybe this is the first in a line of never-before-seen sound-£uckery tools, and they're just testing the water with this..

sidrat · Post by **sidrat** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:52 am

CinningBao wrote:Maybe this is the first in a line of never-before-seen sound-£uckery tools, and they're just testing the water with this..

Yes, apparently, this is the first plugin in the new series. More to come...

Sparky77 · Post by **Sparky77** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:25 am

aMUSEd wrote:
dayjob wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI-X-DdXZAg
Looks uncannily close to Unfiltered Audio plugin designs

But sounds very different.

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:13 pm

I haven't seen anything there that couldn't be done with the built in bigwig effects. It could also be done on a very in depth level in MXXX. Or guitar rig 1. Or basically anything that will let you split a signal and then process each stream. The only remotely tricky part is setting up the dynamic processors so they recombine properly. Many gates or transient designer type effects will output the difference signal.

Motion · Post by **Motion** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:57 pm

First incarnation is out with Fission:

https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/ ... ct/fission

CinningBao · Post by **CinningBao** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 10:23 pm

Good spot Motion cheers

... Well after 15 minutes of videos, I guess I want it. No mention of individual outs for trans/tonal - I suppose that might be asking bit too much?

Motion · Post by **Motion** » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:42 pm

Just been using Fission, really great stuff, its superbly cool...I'm hooked

Looking very forward to see whats next for their Structural Effects.

shroom81 · Post by **shroom81** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:40 am

Motion wrote:Just been using Fission, really great stuff, its superbly cool...I'm hooked Looking very forward to see whats next for their Structural Effects.

Some serious fun to be had indeed, the preset Blackholish will turn a detuned saw wave into Blade runner pad in an instant

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:57 am

The artifacts created by the separation process are quite audible, but it sounds pretty good for real-time processing, the effects which can be applied to each source are very basic though, I like the tap delay, there should be some distortion/waveshaper/bitcrusher modes, granular effects, spectral effects, frequency modulation/ring modulation -> but that will probably be part of future releases.
At low buffer sizes (e.g. 128 samples) it's barely usable in Logic 10.3.1 on my super fast Mac Pro, so I set the buffer size to max (1024) in order to have a smooth demo experience.

Live on video experiment: processing a sequence played on my multi-sampled Stick Cello (cello played with drum sticks), tweaking things on the fly, checking out the various effects in each source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yLANLI-DIM

Eventide "Structural Effects"