Poll: Comparing reverb sounds - blindtest
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
EDIT: As soon as I released the results, people started tampering with them . Bricasti and Lexicon had almost no votes . Nevermind, so much for blindtesting .
Hi folks, so here's a little experiment, most of the reverbs are presets from the upcoming MTurboReverb, but there's fair share of other reverbs as well. All of them approximately 3 seconds reverb time, 50% dry/wet, normalized to -16LUFS to avoid loudness trickery. Please choose as many as you want. Let's see what people like . I'll reveal which is which after we have some reasonable results .
PS. It's the hardcore test loop, if people find this post useful, next time I'll do something else .
And sorry for the number of them, it's hard to choose just a few .
Dry: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/dry.mp3
01: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/01.mp3
02: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/02.mp3
03: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/03.mp3
04: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/04.mp3
05: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/05.mp3
06: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/06.mp3
07: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/07.mp3
08: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/08.mp3
09: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/09.mp3
10: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/10.mp3
11: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/11.mp3
12: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/12.mp3
13: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/13.mp3
14: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/14.mp3
15: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/15.mp3
16: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/16.mp3
17: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/17.mp3
18: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/18.mp3
19: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/19.mp3
20: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/20.mp3
Hi folks, so here's a little experiment, most of the reverbs are presets from the upcoming MTurboReverb, but there's fair share of other reverbs as well. All of them approximately 3 seconds reverb time, 50% dry/wet, normalized to -16LUFS to avoid loudness trickery. Please choose as many as you want. Let's see what people like . I'll reveal which is which after we have some reasonable results .
PS. It's the hardcore test loop, if people find this post useful, next time I'll do something else .
And sorry for the number of them, it's hard to choose just a few .
Dry: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/dry.mp3
01: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/01.mp3
02: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/02.mp3
03: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/03.mp3
04: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/04.mp3
05: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/05.mp3
06: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/06.mp3
07: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/07.mp3
08: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/08.mp3
09: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/09.mp3
10: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/10.mp3
11: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/11.mp3
12: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/12.mp3
13: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/13.mp3
14: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/14.mp3
15: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/15.mp3
16: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/16.mp3
17: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/17.mp3
18: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/18.mp3
19: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/19.mp3
20: http://www.meldaproduction.com/temp/REVERBTEST/20.mp3
Last edited by MeldaProduction on Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:36 pm, edited 2 times in total.
- KVRian
- 896 posts since 8 Aug, 2011
What's tricky is that sometimes it's not necesserily a bad reverb but it does'nt fit the clip. So I tend to vote for what works. Some of them I liked the sound but did'nt like the tail. To my taste half of those sounds are usable.
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- KVRist
- 266 posts since 18 Oct, 2005
I tried my best - but I agree this is not easy to do right. In general, maybe due to the sample used, they all sounded a bit flat and uninspiring. I voted for the darker ones as the hi-hat sample sounded very bad 'washed out' in some of the examples, but maybe the hi-hat sample itself is the main reason (spiky as it is).
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- KVRAF
- 35405 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Chris-S wrote:I like the dry one.
Most of the examples are certainly too drowned in reverb, for the percussive application. Makes it hard to judge really. I guess i'd vote for the one with the least reverb on it then.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hehe it needs to be loud enough so you can actually hear the details in the reverb. The goal isn't really to choose the recording ready to print on CD . And these are not random, i always tried to find the settings that would be reasonable. At the end it will certainly be about a personal taste, but that's the point of the poll after all
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- KVRAF
- 1668 posts since 11 Nov, 2009 from Northern CA
Just a suggestion for a survey like this ... If you went to an optometrist for an eye evaluation, you wouldn't be asked: here's twenty different settings to read line 3 on the chart - tell me which is best. Instead, you'd be given a series of choices: which of these two is better. I would structure a test like this the same way - otherwise it's extremely difficult to respond in a meaningful (or accurate) manner. Just my 2 cents.
Also, I think the sample clips are too wet for a realistic evaluation. My preference would be to hear them at (or maybe just a tiny bit above) what would be used in a real-life mix. The way the reverb overwhelms the audio, the clips sound rather dreadful, whereas they might sound far more acceptable if not oversaturated with the effect. Again, just my 2 cents.
Also, I think the sample clips are too wet for a realistic evaluation. My preference would be to hear them at (or maybe just a tiny bit above) what would be used in a real-life mix. The way the reverb overwhelms the audio, the clips sound rather dreadful, whereas they might sound far more acceptable if not oversaturated with the effect. Again, just my 2 cents.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hard to say, I think the 50% drywet is a good choice, otherwise one couldn't hear the details. Anyways yes/no test would be better, but I don't have time to implement anything like that. This is purely a curiosity matter
- KVRAF
- 23456 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I would have thought the same, but then didn't find it very difficult, because -to my ears - most Sound rather dreadful and there's only a handful that really stand out.dmbaer wrote: otherwise it's extremely difficult to respond in a meaningful (or accurate) manner.
Also I think it's good that it is so wet, because it makes the dreadful ones less endurable.
Looking forward to find out whether my guess is (at least partly) correct that those which stand out are not Melda.
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hehe yeah, this loop really likes to promote the worst of every reverb . But I don't mind it, maybe because I got so used to it over the time .
Hehe we'll see about your guesses, but you need to remember which these were . Wait KVR stores it, nevermind .
Hehe we'll see about your guesses, but you need to remember which these were . Wait KVR stores it, nevermind .
- KVRAF
- 23456 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Easy - 2, 4, 5, 9, 15
(with 5 probably being the most universally useable... )
(with 5 probably being the most universally useable... )
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 14019 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Is this some kind of number sequence? I mean like a fibbonaci numbers or something?
- KVRAF
- 23456 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
You tell me - you're the one who decided which number each example gets...
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
- KVRist
- 251 posts since 7 Feb, 2017
The one that had the fastest low-frequency decay.