Can I Put Kramer Master Tape On An Individual Instrument Buss?

[thecontrolcentre]

Are there any studios in your area? Any other musicians? I learnt a lot by volunteering to tape op (yeah, tape) when I was starting out. Most cities have a musical community you can get involved in. Maybe's a local music collective? This stuff is difficult to learn alone, especially when you cant hear what certain effects are doing.

[wagtunes]

Are there any studios in your area? Any other musicians? I learnt a lot by volunteering to tape op (yeah, tape) when I was starting out. Most cities have a musical community you can get involved in. Maybe's a local music collective? This stuff is difficult to learn alone, especially when you cant hear what certain effects are doing.

Oh how I wish. One of my dream jobs would be to intern at a recording studio. I would do it for nothing in a heartbeat. There is just nothing around here. There used to be back in the 70s, 80s and even 90s. But no more.

Blame the Internet and all the desktop DJs making amazing music on a MAC.

It's a different world from the one I grew up in.

[Robmobius]

Saturation is a really big thing for me. I use it on everything...

That said, taking criticism on a music forum is a very hit and miss affair, as skill levels and opinions vary (widely). I would not take someone's opinion seriously, unless I could hear their music and thought it was well produced.

Having said that, if you're not using saturation on your tracks then I'd definitely start using it. It will definitely beef up your tracks and add that certain character that we all seem to love. I won't say the word as I'll be criticized for being cliche. once you start using it you'll never stop.

That doesn't mean you flay your music alive with it (unless that's the sound you're after!). But it's building it up gently over your whole mix. As if it's been mixed through an analog console. I could write pages on the use of saturation...

But in answer to your question. I have the Slate Digital and I like it. I've not used it in a while, to be honest. But you can use it over 'groups' of tracks (set on the actual plugin itself) and then on the master as well (separately). So you're 'summing' the character together to get a more colored sound. You can of course, put one on each track, but you'll be bouncing. Hence the whole group thing.

However, it's worth thinking about some other options. I found the Slate good but not that versatile. That said, your DAW might have some good saturators built in.

Here are a few plugins I'd look at before the slate they can be used in a variety of situations.

BX_Console:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8pGSRno4FA

All my templates have one of these inserted on the tracks BX_Saturater V2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHnwErrprNY

Just got this recently. Great for tracks and master Black Box:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGdQg6c1Gvo

Britson - Pretty cheap but really nice. It's pretty subtle but works great Especially over the whole mix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjsSeKcoZSg

Hope this doesn't get you more confused, but these tools (imo) are a lot better and more useful overall then the Slate. Of course take my opinion with a pinch of salt. But you can try a few demos and see if you like the results (they all have presets to get you started).

[wagtunes]

Saturation is a really big thing for me. I use it on everything...

That said, taking criticism on a music forum is a very hit and miss affair, as skill levels and opinions vary (widely). I would not take someone's opinion seriously, unless I could hear their music and thought it was well produced.

Having said that, if you're not using saturation on your tracks then I'd definitely start using it. It will definitely beef up your tracks and add that certain character that we all seem to love. I won't say the word as I'll be criticized for being cliche. once you start using it you'll never stop.

That doesn't mean you flay your music alive with it (unless that's the sound you're after!). But it's building it up gently over your whole mix. As if it's been mixed through an analog console. I could write pages on the use of saturation...

But in answer to your question. I have the Slate Digital and I like it. I've not used it in a while, to be honest. But you can use it over 'groups' of tracks (set on the actual plugin itself) and then on the master as well (separately). So you're 'summing' the character together to get a more colored sound. You can of course, put one on each track, but you'll be bouncing. Hence the whole group thing.

However, it's worth thinking about some other options. I found the Slate good but not that versatile. That said, your DAW might have some good saturators built in.

Here are a few plugins I'd look at before the slate they can be used in a variety of situations.

BX_Console:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8pGSRno4FA

All my templates have one of these inserted on the tracks BX_Saturater V2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHnwErrprNY

Just got this recently. Great for tracks and master Black Box:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGdQg6c1Gvo

Britson - Pretty cheap but really nice. It's pretty subtle but works great Especially over the whole mix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjsSeKcoZSg

Hope this doesn't get you more confused, but these tools (imo) are a lot better and more useful overall then the Slate. Of course take my opinion with a pinch of salt. But you can try a few demos and see if you like the results (they all have presets to get you started).

Thanks for all the suggestions. Confused? I'm past confused. I'm "deer in the headlights just run me over now and get it over with" confused. That's why I need a teacher. I'll never figure this out on my own.

[sfxsound3]

Having said that, if you're not using saturation on your tracks then I'd definitely start using it.

Let me google that for you:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pitfall

[rod_zero]

I like tape sat but it is not the only flavour in town, something like Saturn or RC20 retrocolor brings more options.

[Robmobius]

I like tape sat but it is not the only flavour in town, something like Saturn or RC20 retrocolor brings more options.

I forgot about Saturn.

Both good options.

[wagtunes]

I like tape sat but it is not the only flavour in town, something like Saturn or RC20 retrocolor brings more options.

I forgot about Saturn.

Both good options.

Isn't Saturn by U-he?

[Kr3eM]

I like tape sat but it is not the only flavour in town, something like Saturn or RC20 retrocolor brings more options.

I forgot about Saturn.

Both good options.

Isn't Saturn by U-he?

No, Fabfilter... Satin is made by U-he

[whyterabbyt]

I like tape sat but it is not the only flavour in town, something like Saturn or RC20 retrocolor brings more options.

I forgot about Saturn.

Both good options.

Isn't Saturn by U-he?

No, thats Satin. Saturn is by Fabfilter.

[Robmobius]

That's why I need a teacher. I'll never figure this out on my own.

Sorry! There are too many shiny tools about these days.

I'd highly recommend a tutor btw (it helped me a lot). Seriously, you'll improve no end... However, it's finding the right one.

I'd say keep looking! There's plenty of decent guys about who are willing to make a few quid. For me, it was great over skype. No traveling!

[robotmonkey]

It's safe to use several instances of Kramer Master Tape on different tracks. Though you should never use more than one instance of Scheps Parallel Particles as this might open up a miniature black hole that would suck in all your tracks and eventually end up destroying us all.

[plexuss]

Having said that, if you're not using saturation on your tracks then I'd definitely start using it.

Let me google that for you:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pitfall

saturation is another word for distortion. there are no silver bullets. not every track will benefit from distortion (ok, I'll call it "saturation" to keep you happy). you have to use your ears and determine when, what and how much of anything to use. just using saturation indiscriminately is a recipe for audio disaster. Maybe you are being discriminating with your use of saturation, if so it would be useful to know what guides you.

I use a lot of saturation in the form of analogue models. Nebula is main tool for getting an analogue warmth. I found bx_saturation to be too sterile sounding but of course ymmv.

It's actually a bit pointless to talk about specific tools because frankly, you select the tool based on the track and what you want to achieve. I'd be wary of anyone who says to use this or that without actually listening to what they are proposing using it on.

[wagtunes]

Okay, here's the track I just completed. Personally, I like it. It's clean. It's musically a bit on the odd side but the mix is how I wanted it. I'm sure there will be a hundred people who will find 100 faults with it and how it can be made "better" but unless I can hear that for myself (I obviously can't) it's all kind of pointless. Again, I simply need training to hear what I'm obviously not hearing now.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... -on-backup

[Robmobius]

there are no silver bullets. not every track will benefit from distortion (ok, I'll call it "saturation" to keep you happy).

Yeah, it's not a panacea by any means Chk_71 mentioned this.

I don't see what's wrong with mentioning tools though tbh. How could you go wrong with using something like BX_Console? It's a console emulation after all - it will work well for just abut anything.

But any of those tools will be good to have t any rate. I guess that's why they are so popular.

Not mad on most of the Nebula stuff personally, horses for courses and all that...