KVR Audio

Soulgolem · Post by **Soulgolem** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:56 pm

So i just got mine, it's pretty nice, but what's with the voice Allocation ? I think it's been discussed here before but i thought that problem was fixed, are other people having this issue ?

when i go up a scale for instance it will periodically sound like a mono synth in poly mode for like 4-5 notes run because the voice Allocation system is stealing the last note played instead of the first like a normal simple poly synth would, this, for me, renders the synth unplayable in many respects.

HELP !

i got latest version.

ps, someone made a clip that showcases the issue :

https://clyp.it/xvr5ymwz#

yul · Post by **yul** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:41 pm

I am curious as well.

I just got one but not getting the exact same issue than you but I do think the allocation is different than let's say a MS2K (can anyone confirm?)

One thing I am suspecting is they deliberately chose this way to facilitate for the other voice modes (maybe I am wrong).

Anyhow, it seems that setting portamento to 0 can help in the case of mono mode but I am yet to confirm in poly if this changes anything.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:19 pm

yul wrote:One thing I am suspecting is they deliberately chose this way to facilitate for the other voice modes (maybe I am wrong).

They could make it optional...

yul · Post by **yul** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:31 pm

Mutant wrote:
yul wrote:One thing I am suspecting is they deliberately chose this way to facilitate for the other voice modes (maybe I am wrong).
They could make it optional...

Sure wish they will!!!

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:42 pm

But it's analogue so you can't just fix it with a firmware update, you have to put new/different circuitry in.

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:59 pm

Not necessarily... many modern analog synths use micro controllers for all the control, modulation and voice allocation stuff. It looks like that is the case with most of Korg's recent analog synths. It may be possible to fix lots of things with a firmware update.

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:57 pm

Soulgolem wrote:So i just got mine, it's pretty nice, but what's with the voice Allocation ? I think it's been discussed here before but i thought that problem was fixed, are other people having this issue ?

when i go up a scale for instance it will periodically sound like a mono synth in poly mode for like 4-5 notes run because the voice Allocation system is stealing the last note played instead of the first like a normal simple poly synth would, this, for me, renders the synth unplayable in many respects.

HELP !

i got latest version.

ps, someone made a clip that showcases the issue :

https://clyp.it/xvr5ymwz#

confirmed. someone should contact korg

yul · Post by **yul** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:09 pm

Has anyone contacted Korg? Are they even listening? What are the options here? Thanks

yul · Post by **yul** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:02 pm

Called my local distributor they can't do anything..

Sent a support request to Korg Japan I am sure it will go nowhere (as it is for Japanese only).

At least I tried,

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:48 pm

if you still have facebook you can try contact the developer who has a facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/tatsuya.takahashi.507
fastest way to get the issue sorted (if it can be solved).

I think this explains the fault well

minilogue voice stealing the last note played.
it will periodically sound like a mono synth in poly mode for like 4-5 notes run because the voice allocation system is stealing the last note played instead of the first like a normal simple poly synth would.
someone made a clip that showcases the issue :
https://clyp.it/xvr5ymwz#

olikana · Post by **olikana** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:48 pm

edit:double post

yul · Post by **yul** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:56 pm

Thanks I will give it a shot!!

yul · Post by **yul** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:11 am

I think I have found a "compromise" for the voice allocation on long release times...it's more about how they synth is played. Instead of using long release times I would instead use long decay times (while holding the notes), no sustain and medium release. It kinda works and more akin to organ playing but it's certainly acceptable. You can hear the difference on long notes. Think it's worth it since the overall sound of this synth is quite astounding. Cheers

yul · Post by **yul** » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:54 am

...and if I may add...it seems that by holding down 3 sustained notes and playing the 4th as a mono line (with portamento turned on), it's like having a droning chord and a mono line at the same time. The mono note envelope will not reset as long as you play legato. Probably normal behaviour but Interesting still. Maybe it explains the choice in voicing by Korg.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Apr 10, 2017 12:50 am

That actually makes sense and, in fact, is quite clever on KORG's part. But maybe they need to offer both options?

Korg Minilogue