Well, it seems that a bunch of us are leaning in the same direction at the same time. I can feel the Earth tilting. Recently I've been listening to Nancarrow's stuff for instruments *other* than the player piano. Some very fine stuff indeed :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od9PTy6JUxs
Best,
dp
Examples Of Tonal And Atonal Music
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- KVRian
- 1297 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from Findlay OH USA
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- KVRAF
- 3626 posts since 25 Mar, 2006 from The city by the bay
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
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- KVRAF
- 3626 posts since 25 Mar, 2006 from The city by the bay
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- Banned
- 453 posts since 30 Mar, 2016
Big words..........jancivil wrote:music
Weirdo notation skills by a crazy music professor? Yessir!
Annoying bat infra sounds? Yessir!
But music? - - - - - - - Give me a break!
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
"Music is a big word" - but you're using it as though there is this extremely narrow definition at work.
Which is what? It should be something more conventionally pleasant and not challenging your prejudices at all?
Your expression here is just childish. And that you'd come into a thread where people are sharing things they enjoy to do that dull shit is exceedingly rude.
Which is what? It should be something more conventionally pleasant and not challenging your prejudices at all?
Your expression here is just childish. And that you'd come into a thread where people are sharing things they enjoy to do that dull shit is exceedingly rude.
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- KVRian
- 1000 posts since 1 Dec, 2004
That was bound to happen... this kind of music, people tend to either love it, or really, really hate it (like, almost on a physical level). (I fall in the 'hate this' category too, to be fair)
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- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Yes one of my favourites - powerful and disturbingly beautifuljancivil wrote:THAT is one of the more intense pieces of music ever.
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- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
This seems to hover between tonality and atonality - but whatever it is a gorgeous piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGMVqix_w4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGMVqix_w4w
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- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- KVRAF
- 3626 posts since 25 Mar, 2006 from The city by the bay
My bias leans towards being open to different things and I took the OPs post to suggest that some younger than me are on a quest that is enriched by not worrying too much about whether it is or isn't music.
If someone at KVR was to expand their horizons, one tends to believe that doing that can help in many ways, including the vocational. Suppose that person got a chance to score a major Hollywood film, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz4WGO_Y8dk
That's the beauty of it: the stuff is there whether you want to venture forth or not. And one can concentrate on one style (form) or another. Penderecki, after all did compose some later works that in parts sound like Bartok and other earlier composers who were not part of the atonal revolution.
If someone at KVR was to expand their horizons, one tends to believe that doing that can help in many ways, including the vocational. Suppose that person got a chance to score a major Hollywood film, for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz4WGO_Y8dk
That's the beauty of it: the stuff is there whether you want to venture forth or not. And one can concentrate on one style (form) or another. Penderecki, after all did compose some later works that in parts sound like Bartok and other earlier composers who were not part of the atonal revolution.
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- KVRAF
- 3626 posts since 25 Mar, 2006 from The city by the bay
Yeah and it seems to me that after WWII the influence of the atonal composers can be found all over the place.aMUSEd wrote:This seems to hover between tonality and atonality - but whatever it is a gorgeous piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGMVqix_w4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijahFCUCS24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svdrAHn_LGo
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- KVRian
- 1297 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from Findlay OH USA
A few years ago I got into the "Spectralist" composers, Radelescu, Murail, Grisey, Norgard, Saariaho, Harvey, etc. So much of it is lovely stuff, but the music that reached me deepest was by Claude Vivier.
A favorite :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrIA2KbJkaE
How Tristan Murail thinks about the electric guitar :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWKJrLE0bMI
Gerard Grisey's spectralist masterwork :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v7onrjN6RE
Best,
dp
A favorite :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrIA2KbJkaE
How Tristan Murail thinks about the electric guitar :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWKJrLE0bMI
Gerard Grisey's spectralist masterwork :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v7onrjN6RE
Best,
dp
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I don't recall hearing about 'spectralism' before.
The Vivier Lonely Child is fascinating. Quite concerned with the vertical sonorities business but there is no apparent chordal thinking, and it isn't serial anything. Kind of points to early polyphony in some ways at least in the non-chordal aspect, or that streams of note-thought relate vertically in this other realm. I relate to dealing straight with sonority at least.
The Vivier Lonely Child is fascinating. Quite concerned with the vertical sonorities business but there is no apparent chordal thinking, and it isn't serial anything. Kind of points to early polyphony in some ways at least in the non-chordal aspect, or that streams of note-thought relate vertically in this other realm. I relate to dealing straight with sonority at least.
