Minimoog Softsynth Shootout: Diva MiniV3 Monark Legend Minimonsta vs Model D
- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
OB-X is the SEM filter, OB-XA is curtis filter. The CEM3320 chip that is used on... Pro-One and Prophet-5 rev3.
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- KVRAF
- 35405 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Judging from that vid, i'd say the OB-Xa. There's also some sound demos here: https://www.amazona.de/blue-box-oberheim-ob-xa/ Sounds freaking awesome IMO. Would love to see a more recent emulation of that.
- KVRAF
- 23101 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
The original OB-X, for sure. Discrete circuitry, closest to the sound of a polyphonic SEM, without needing to program each voice separately like on Voice synths.
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Poland
My internal nerd tells me that to compare 2 synths, you need to record them directly to your audio interface and that if you put any other synth through the same amp/speaker/room/mic combo - it will sound the same.egbert101 wrote:Comparison video between Oberheim OB-8 and Oberheim OB-Xa. Strictly for nerds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1dCQ6X4f8
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- KVRAF
- 3828 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
My internal nerd, in my experience, tells me they don't sound the same, but when you mix, "master" it in a "modern way", encode it into MP3 and then listen to it on "Thing-Chew" Ultra High Quality $5 PC speakers, everything sounds the same. Even your fart.
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- KVRAF
- 2275 posts since 4 Dec, 2011 from Brasília, Brazil
I'm just a curious man, but from my reading, CEM3320 doesn't seems to be a chip implementation of the SEM circuit - seems to be two different things.
Some random reading about fixing these synths:
https://sites.google.com/site/jlonanost ... heim-ob-xa
http://www.retrosynth.com/~analoguedieh ... index.html
In the second article there's some rambling about Tom Sawyer filter sweep and how the analog imperfections of OB-X contributes to the sound.
Some random reading about fixing these synths:
https://sites.google.com/site/jlonanost ... heim-ob-xa
http://www.retrosynth.com/~analoguedieh ... index.html
In the second article there's some rambling about Tom Sawyer filter sweep and how the analog imperfections of OB-X contributes to the sound.
My soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/waltercruz
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Poland
The main problem is that Geddy did NOT use any delay on that patch.egbert101 wrote:I'm pretty sure I made this sound from this video which used a Moog Taurus pedal:
Now go and try doing the sound without the delay and without the OB-X sloppy voice cards, you will get a very nice and well behaved, but also a very boring, one dimensional resonance sweep.
Listen here:
https://app.box.com/s/qwzr8ajl7e9n856nk5pklz43enfc43lo
First my sound on one side and the original on the other, then turned around 180 degrees.
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Poland
1 resonance sweep channel.egbert101 wrote:I'm not using any delay on the patch I created.
Here is the patch I created, no effects added:
https://soundcloud.com/tony-781205439/r ... ampler-001
That is exactly what i said in my previous post.
Same patch on the OB-X would result in 8 individual, different sweeps, layered on top of each other and spread in the stereo field, which is what made the sound so epic, compared to yours.
And it is not your or even the Taurus' fault, the Taurus simply can't do that because it is monophonic.
BTW On Tom Sawyer the Taurus had nothing to do with the sweeps, it only added its texture to the lows.
Your sweep sounds very nice, but it is not a TS sweep.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33155 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
correct. AFAIR, the SEM was a 2-pole 12db/oct filter, with no self-oscillation, whilst the CEM is capable of 24db/oct, and will self-oscillate. As a filter core chip, rather than a full filter design, the CEM was somewhat reconfigurable toplogy-wise...waltercruz wrote:I'm just a curious man, but from my reading, CEM3320 doesn't seems to be a chip implementation of the SEM circuit - seems to be two different things.
http://electricdruid.net/cem3320-filter-designs/
my other modular synth is a bugbrand